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Mosaic Mystic wrote: since he doesn't need to run for re-election,


Because he's going to get a 3rd term and become a dictator right?

The constitution will not stop that. The 14th amendment was already side stepped. The constitution is toilet paper. A 3rd term in violation of the constitution is certainly on the table now. Americans that voted for Trump hate democratic principals.
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Rancid wrote:Because he's going to get a 3rd term and become a dictator right?

The constitution will not stop that. The 14th amendment was already side stepped. The constitution is toilet paper. A 3rd term in violation of the constitution is certainly on the table now. Americans that voted for Trump hate democratic principals.


They can use excuses Rancid. FDR was a third term president due to popular votes. The capitalists and industrialists were very worried about FDR having a lot of terms in office since he would negotiate with them all kinds of concessions in an economy where very angry working people were pressuring the system. Remember that the Great Depression gave you a lot of radical left responses back then. From organized labor, Communists, Socialists and Liberals. All banded together and created pressure.

So, in order to get rid of a very popular FDR? They came up with term limits. And got that passed. Especially the part about populist presidents.

So they can remove those post Great Depression Era and beginnings of WWII era term limitations. Say it favored the Capitalists and it justifies another third term. They got rid of Roe v Wade. Why not the term limitations eh?
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Tainari88 wrote:They can use excuses Rancid. FDR was a third term president due to popular votes. The capitalists and industrialists were very worried about FDR having a lot of terms in office since he would negotiate with them all kinds of concessions in an economy where very angry working people were pressuring the system. Remember that the Great Depression gave you a lot of radical left responses back then. From organized labor, Communists, Socialists and Liberals. All banded together and created pressure.

So, in order to get rid of a very popular FDR? They came up with term limits. And got that passed. Especially the part about populist presidents.

So they can remove those post Great Depression Era and beginnings of WWII era term limitations. Say it favored the Capitalists and it justifies another third term. They got rid of Roe v Wade. Why not the term limitations eh?


I am not going to panic yet about all this. Democrats need to keep eye on ball and act like Mitch McConnel in Obama's second term. Try to block or slow down every Project 25 initiative for the next 18 months until the Democrats take back the House.
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Hakeer wrote:I am not going to panic yet about all this. Democrats need to keep eye on ball and act like Mitch McConnel in Obama's second term. Try to block or slow down every Project 25 initiative for the next 18 months until the Democrats take back the House.


My husband thinks they will take back the House. I do not think so. I think Democrats are going to be very very pressured constantly. The Republicans with Trump in charge are fanatics and professional obsessed types. Those never give up. They are like a tick on a dog. Unless you are extremely focused and you have tons of working people behind you? Backing you and willing to go to jail to challenge them? You won't win with those type of fanatics Hakeer.

My husband voted for Kamala as an anti Trump vote. I did not. I felt no matter what happened Trump was going to be the next sitting president. So far in my most of my marriage? My predictions are right about 90% of the time. In politics, in finances and in many areas.

I never underestimate the racists in the USA. Never. I always know that they do not give a shit about fairness or justice. Only power and control. With plenty of money for selfish reasons. The hallmark of the Right wing is that. Power. Control. Money. And to fuck over the ones they think are not important. The Democrats are like you Hakeer. They keep putting the Puerto Rican problem on the back burner. Oh, we have other fish to fry. And so on. MLK Jr. said that the American liberals were like that. Everyone told him over and over again during the Civil Rights Era to just wait a few years. Do not pressure so hard. We will get there. Other fish to fry. You believe in that shit of waiting around. You have to move with the people. They give you the signal. And then you close in on the goal. Waiting for people who do not give a shit about your cause is futile. It does not affect them. It is not their priority. If you were not an African American during King's time? Many thought it was not a priority. That is an old and bad excuse to not deal with injustice. It always is. You should study what he said about American liberals.

My husband is better at personal relationship judgments. He tells me if a person is trustworthy or not. He is usually right. I tend to give people in my personal life a lot of leeway.

But politically he is not correct most of the time. I am. :lol:
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Tainari88 wrote:My husband thinks they will take back the House. I do not think so. I think Democrats are going to be very very pressured constantly. The Republicans with Trump in charge are fanatics and professional obsessed types. Those never give up. They are like a tick on a dog. Unless you are extremely focused and you have tons of working people behind you? Backing you and willing to go to jail to challenge them? You won't win with those type of fanatics Hakeer.

My husband voted for Kamala as an anti Trump vote. I did not. I felt no matter what happened Trump was going to be the next sitting president. So far in my most of my marriage? My predictions are right about 90% of the time. In politics, in finances and in many areas.

I never underestimate the racists in the USA. Never. I always know that they do not give a shit about fairness or justice. Only power and control. With plenty of money for selfish reasons. The hallmark of the Right wing is that. Power. Control. Money. And to fuck over the ones they think are not important. The Democrats are like you Hakeer. They keep putting the Puerto Rican problem on the back burner. Oh, we have other fish to fry. And so on. MLK Jr. said that the American liberals were like that. Everyone told him over and over again during the Civil Rights Era to just wait a few years. Do not pressure so hard. We will get there. Other fish to fry. You believe in that shit of waiting around. You have to move with the people. They give you the signal. And then you close in on the goal. Waiting for people who do not give a shit about your cause is futile. It does not affect them. It is not their priority. If you were not an African American during King's time? Many thought it was not a priority. That is an old and bad excuse to not deal with injustice. It always is. You should study what he said about American liberals.

My husband is better at personal relationship judgments. He tells me if a person is trustworthy or not. He is usually right. I tend to give people in my personal life a lot of leeway.

But politically he is not correct most of the time. I am. :lol:


I hope you and I are both here Nov. 2026 to hear what you say about your husband being right about Dems taking back the House.

Until then, all we can do about Puerto Rico is put the CPC bill forward. We did that. We can’t force Johnson to allow a vote on it.
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Hakeer wrote:I hope you and I are both here Nov. 2026 to hear what you say about your husband being right about Dems taking back the House.

Until then, all we can do about Puerto Rico is put the CPC bill forward. We did that. We can’t force Johnson to allow a vote on it.


There is always going to be Johnson or some Mitchell or some asshole preventing it. Don't you understand? It is not a priority. Unless you force the issue. The Civil Rights era had leaders heads being blown off, attack dogs with Bull Conner and so on. VIOLENCE. Blood in the streets and international TVs seeing people being beaten and shot.

Then it gets done.

Do not be surprised that Puerto Rico becomes like that too. With that Johnson can't be forced.

Yeah, whatever. Another hundred years go by with people negotiating with a pack of hyenas and undemocratic fascist fucks. Waiting for them to vote on their racist thrones. Nothing gets done.

You really have no idea how bad that shit is going to get in the next four years.
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@Hakeer the Democrats kept thinking socialist women in power are not the right type for Trump. She is exactly what someone like him needs. But no, the Democrats hate getting the socialists in there to counter him. See what a real Leftist woman from Latin America does with Trump?

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Tainari88 wrote:There is always going to be Johnson or some Mitchell or some asshole preventing it. Don't you understand? It is not a priority. Unless you force the issue. The Civil Rights era had leaders heads being blown off, attack dogs with Bull Conner and so on. VIOLENCE. Blood in the streets and international TVs seeing people being beaten and shot.

Then it gets done.

Do not be surprised that Puerto Rico becomes like that too. With that Johnson can't be forced.

Yeah, whatever. Another hundred years go by with people negotiating with a pack of hyenas and undemocratic fascist fucks. Waiting for them to vote on their racist thrones. Nothing gets done.

You really have no idea how bad that shit is going to get in the next four years.


As I said, we first have to vote out the Republicans. Then vote on the CPC bill. If your husband is right, it comes in 2 years, not 100.
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Tainari88 wrote:@Hakeer the Democrats kept thinking socialist women in power are not the right type for Trump. She is exactly what someone like him needs. But no, the Democrats hate getting the socialists in there to counter him. See what a real Leftist woman from Latin America does with Trump?



What leftist are you talking about? Trump gets along fine with his fellow fascists and autocrats. He’s ready to have trade war with China, Canada, Mexico.
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Hakeer wrote:What leftist are you talking about? Trump gets along fine with his fellow fascists and autocrats. He’s ready to have trade war with China, Canada, Mexico.


The Mexican president is who I am talking about. Lol.

You know Mexico.

Hee hee.

A reminder.



You know....Sheinbaum is a declared socialist? You knew that yes or no?

It did not faze a bunch of big macho, Mexican men from voting for her on June 1, 2024. ;)

https://youtube.com/shorts/9ic2qk7g7MI? ... leOjTETwxn

https://youtube.com/shorts/3TdpvDIgfvs? ... qLWfQuqogP

She is dancing around there with her supporters. Hmm.
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Hakeer wrote:What leftist are you talking about? Trump gets along fine with his fellow fascists and autocrats. He’s ready to have trade war with China, Canada, Mexico.


You don't need a Trump to fight a trade war with China. Democrat or Republican, all dancing to the same tune. A siren's song of days past.

China Announces a Ban on Rare Minerals to the U.S.

China said on Tuesday that it would begin banning the export of several rare minerals to the United States, an escalation of the tech war between the world’s two biggest powers. The move comes a day after the Biden administration tightened Chinese access to advanced American technology.
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Hakeer wrote:What leftist are you talking about? Trump gets along fine with his fellow fascists and autocrats. He’s ready to have trade war with China, Canada, Mexico.


Yes, and he has offered to make Canada the 51st state.

All of these entertaining soundbites are filling up the MSM with chuckles and guffaws, giving emtpy-headed celebs something to talk about on the View.

This is helping Israel by keeping their genocide out of the MSM.

Trump is excellent as a distraction from the horrible reality of decline and deligitimization.
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QatzelOk wrote:Yes, and he has offered to make Canada the 51st state.

All of these entertaining soundbites are filling up the MSM with chuckles and guffaws, giving emtpy-headed celebs something to talk about on the View.

This is helping Israel by keeping their genocide out of the MSM.

Trump is excellent as a distraction from the horrible reality of decline and deligitimization.


Did Trump suggest trading Puerto Rico for Greenland? After all, they are mostly white folks and PR is a floating pile of garbage.
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Hakeer wrote:Did Trump suggest trading Puerto Rico for Greenland? After all, they are mostly white folks and PR is a floating pile of garbage.

Yuck yucks during a USA-funded genocide?

Kamala problaby wouldn't have been as entertaining.

The bankcruptcy of the USA and its rapid collapse will be the least entertaining thing the current residents have ever gone through. Though the First Nations who are still around have experienced something very similar a long time ago...

Rather then choosing entertainers as heads of state, the First Nations had a lot of philosophers during their own destruction by international finance and corporations.
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So I thought Trump showed admirable strength in his first term when he recognised the Golan heights as de jure Israel. Biden recongnising Trump's superior strength and wisdom made no attempt to reverse this. If Trump is serious about peace through strength then he should demand that the new Syrian government also recongnise the Golan heights as Israeli. Without this concession, without this acceptance of reality, that Israel a nuclear power that actually respects the rights of its citizens is not going to give up the Golan, we will be just setting ourselves up for endless war.
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Hakeer wrote:Yeah, I wouldn’t take that bet. There is only room for one big ego on their stage.


Elon Musk at least seems smart enough to to bow down to Trump, only because so much of his money comes from government contracts.

Like now that Trump is the President Elect I am so sick of all the stories about how Darth Steve Bannon is now ascendant. I'm sorry, the guy is a fucking moron. During the first Trump presidency, Bannon got kicked out because he went around saying he's ~Trump's Brain~. Which is the dumbest move you can make in Trump's orbit: claiming credit for anything. Trump is a malignant narcissist and all things must be credited to the leader. He operates by taking credit for all successes, shunting failure off to people he doesn't like, and behind the scenes he hooks you up with connections for praising him adequately.

Steve Bannon is not a serious person. He literally owns like 1/8th of the royalties from Seinfeld, which still pays out very well, and he traded it all to run a Podcast and do some weird conman shit that got him arrested by the United States Postal Service Law Enforcement Division for fraud. He is not a serious person, he is just a barnacle who realized he Trump had outlived his usefulness to him.

Did Trump suggest trading Puerto Rico for Greenland? After all, they are mostly white folks and PR is a floating pile of garbage.


Trump supporters are too stupid to realize trading Puerto Rico for Greenland is a trade for more white people.

I've had drunken shouting matches with "economically conservative" people who somehow refuse to believe that Puerto Ricans are American citizens, and therefore people deserving of the rights granted to citizens. They're American citizens, they can be here, it doesn't matter how racist you are. We claimed their country as a protectorate with no real voting rights as citizens or in Congress. Don't blame me for saying they're actual fucking American citizens. It's the law, and they get to vote if they exercise their right to move to an American state and claim residency.

They fucking deserve citizenship just because West Side Story is so good.
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Rich wrote:@SpecialOlympian claims I would never criticise Hitler. What a stupid thing to say. I've repeatedly criticised the Autobahn programme, which some idiot Liberals even praise. I have always expressed contempt for the V2 rocket programme. The fact that I don't idealise Genreral Halder as a strategic genius seems to upset a lot of Liberals. The fact that Hitler prioritsed the Ukraine over OKH;s march on Moscow was to his credit not his detriment.


I have repeatedly said you think that Hitler is the greatest victim of Liberalism. And that you think Liberalism bullied Hitler into suicide, and that we should create safe spaces for future Hitlers so they can grow and flourish.

You have completely misrepresented my position.

Potemkin wrote:Hitler was a useful whipping boy for the failures of the German generals once he was safely dead. When Hitler was presented with the plans for Operation Barbarossa, he was shocked. And he was right - it was utter lunacy.


Hitler was a maniac who wanted to go to war far too early. And he was right to think so: the democratic governments of Europe repeatedly rewarded his aggressive tendencies and ceded land to him.

Hitler's own generals reached out to the French and English powers saying they would betray Him (Glorious Hitler, brave standard bearer against Liberalism) before his invasion of his neighbors. The German Armed Forces and their generals were actually the last portions of German society to hold out against Hitler's subjugation of German culture and government to the Nazi party. And the English were too weak to take the generals up on their offer to betray Hitler if he invaded their neigbors. The German generals thought it was suicidal and wanted to stop a war by turning against the glorious Fuhrer, history's greatest victim of Sorosion liberalism.

And they were wrong. And Hitler was right. He got he wanted peacefully, and embarrassed them.

I am taking this from The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William Shirer. Who is, notably, a Jew. So I am willing to admit it may not be an accurate representation of the glorious third reich, which was struck down by sneaky liberalism (as Rich would would say).

Hitler's doctor was giving him meth and bull semen injections for a fucking decade and also He (pbuh) was basically an offline 4chan poster. I don't see why it's surprising that he wanted war. The only modern equivalent we have to Hitler's medication regimen is Michael Jackson: Speed to dance on tour, Milk of Amnesia to fall asleep at night from his personal anesthetist. Yeah no shit both of them were insane and touched children (Hitler, like Michael Jackson, dated a 14 year old).
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I've done plenty of opiates myself, they are fun.

No amount of opiates has ever made me feel like: "Wow, this 14 year old has a lot of interesting things to say." But I'm not Hitler or Michael Jackson. So who am I to criticize?
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