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@Potemkin , @Verv , and others:

Tomorrow (now today) will be (is)the Feast of the entry of the Theotokos into the Temple of God.

From the age of 3 to 14, Our Lady the Blessed Virgin Mary was consecrated to the Lord by her parents Saints Joakim and Anna, among the women who served God within the Temple having taken their own Nazirite vows.

These women are mentioned directly in 1 Samuel 2:22, in an outrage committed by Eli's sons, and in 2 Maccabees chapter 3 verses 19-20, when Heliodorus attempted to sack the Temple:



And from the Talmud:



And:



For some examples.

The Blessed Virgin Mary was led even into the Holy of Holies of the Second Temple by the priest St Zacharias, it being empty of the Ark because the Ark of the New Covenant was being prepared and protected by God in His Temple...The Ark and Chariot and the Throne of the Lord.

I believe this wholeheartedly, despite naysayers who dont think that any woman could possibly dwell there under the assumed High Priesthood of the alleged time.

This again is where an adjustment of the perception regarding the historical record must be made.

Must?

Yes, because the historical record concerning the years 1 BC to 200 BC in the secular histories are a bit confusing and problematic in some respects.

Today though we have a certain problem though with the Theotokos. Her ancestry and modern relations, with Israeli Jew Noa Cohen playing her in a 2024 film;

From Wiki:




Aside from the movie which i havent seen and cant speak as to the merits thereof ( and probably chock full of errors) , i think that we can discuss whether the Theotokos ( and thus Christ Himself) is a Palestinian Arab/Muslim or a Jew, can we?

I say that, God help her, Cohen is playing her cousin, the Royal, the Daughter who is the Glory of her people Israel.

It speaks in fact to the ongoing crisis of the Jewish people, over twenty centuries old, and the war between the Israel of God, and the Syncretized Cosmopolitan Paganism of the World.

@Potemkin , and @Verv , and @noemon :

Updated. Ive seen enough concerning the movie that i cannot abide the dishonour against the Theotokos and Her Son. The hatred is concealed but it is there, and just in time for the season...

These are not her people, nor His, but as St Daniel said of the Elders and their persecution of Susannah, they are Canaanites and the Mixed Multitude who followed Israel like a parasite out of Egypt.

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Crushed the head of the Serpent;

Glory to Thee, O God, Glory to Thee!

@Potemkin , @Verv

Feast of Prince Saint Alexander Nevsky:

Kontakion, tone 8.

As a star, we honor thee today, having shone forth over the Russian land. For having enriched this whole land with miracles and goodness, thou dost enlighten with faith those who honor thy memory, O blessed Alexander. Therefore, we, thy people, cry out to thee, pray to Christ God to save thy fatherland, the realm of the Russian princes, and all who come running to the reliquary of thy relics, and who faithfully cry out to thee, Rejoice, our city's intercessor.

War is a great clarifier. And God shows forth His Judgement and His Mercies through it alike.

Matthew 11:27-30 (St. Alexander)

27All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him. 28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29
Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.

I saw what has been happening since 1990, i saw it, lived it very personally, and now i must make my peace with it.

Knowing implies a responsibility and duty to trust, with a manly if not a supernatural courage.

Current events are surface epiphenomena, strange not only to observers but even to participants. But today's feast saint Prince Alexander knew those who were the real threat. Recieving a delagation from the Papacy to submit St Alexander said to them:

‘

From Adam to the Flood; from the Flood to the confounding of the languages; from the confounding of the languages to the birth of Abraham; from Abraham to the crossing of the Red Sea by the children of Israel; from the Exodus of the sons of Israel to the death of King David; from the beginning of the reign of Solomon to the time of Augustus, the Emperor; from the beginning of the time of Augustus to the birth of Christ; from the birth of Christ to the Passion and Resurrection of the Lord; from his Resurrection to his Ascension into heaven; from his Ascension into heaven to the reign of Constantine; from the beginning of the reign of Constantine to the First Council; from the First Council to the Seventh Council, all the happenings we know well, all of this sacred history, and we do not accept your teaching.’

And so it is, this is Antichrist. Call me of the "Horde", fine. I dont deserve the company of this Holy Hordesman.

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@Potemkin , and @Verv :

On Moscow the Third Rome

It was the Sainted Philotheus of Pskov who elucidated on the idea;

So know, pious king, that all the Christian kingdoms came to an end and came together in a single kingdom of yours, two Romes have fallen, the third stands, and there will be no fourth [emphasis added]. No one shall replace your Christian Tsardom according to the great Theologian [cf. Revelation 17:10]

It was not replaced so much as set aside, so that the Third Rome did fall in 1666 AD, because of the Nikonian Schism which rules within Orthodoxy and wears it like camouflage....

To maintain the Third Rome was always a spiritual and eschatological undertaking for true Christians, and not a geopolitical one which still holds to the mirage of liberating the "Orthodox" under the Turkocratia by means even of Unia with the Papacy in the minds of some. For behold they are still under the temporal control in daily existence of the Turk religion of Muhammad if not yet back under the Turk himself, and the Latin always extracts a spiritual price.

Nor can any kind of analogue to the Christian Tsardom exist without true Orthodoxy, eventually it gets hollowed out and its children-who cannot abide contradictions and take things to their natural conclusion!-overthrow it as well. This happened in 1917. Tsar Nicholas abdicated noting that the " Old Believers" would " never forgive him for renouncing his authority", but his Romanov ancestor Tsar Alexei already had, and henceforward was just to be obeyed by a Christian as any government would under the sun.

What this means for me, to finally fully absorb the true teaching, remains to be seen.

I for one still believe that an " eschatological politics" is possible, and possible to discuss, given the epistemological framework is predicated as having predictive repeatable results.

That is, for one thing geopolitically i now think we can count on the Turk to rise once again to dominate the Balkans and the Middle East. Such is their role now and in the future.

We can also count on the revival of Poland and some kind of revival of a "Austria-Hungary" in Europe as dominant powers, for the same reasons.

And Zionism is over, Israelis just dont know it yet.

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@Potemkin , @Hakeer , and @Verv , @noemon , others:

Usually when i start with something seemingly banal it turns out to be more important than i realize, and nowhere is that more evident than something that nagged at me even in the midst of world historical events like the fall of Syria to Jihadis, of which more later:

What i'm referring to at the moment is US President Biden's pardon of his son Hunter Biden for anything going back to 2014, 10 years. But what was nagging to me was what it was a signifier of; the end of ideology at the very heart of Modern Western political institutions:

I finally understood then the anger and disappointment of Liberals over Biden's pardon, because it dawned on them as well as myself how deeply personal this pardon was, coming after months of denials that Biden would ever do it. There was no ideological justification for it, nor could there be any.

Biden is not a Modern, although a Westerner. He's not qualitatively different in kind to the other Premodern Western throwback who has transcended Ideology, Donald Trump. Recall the debates between them, how embarassing they were to many civilized people, messy and incoherant? How do you debate in the old way when there's no real objective difference?

Everyone knows this if they simply ask the question: would Trump not do the very same thing in Biden's shoes as President? To ask it is to answer, of course he would, everyone knows this of the man....

Trump and Biden as heralds of the end of Modern Western Civilization, but not of the West:

What do i mean? The essence of the West is it's Promethean strivings of the Individual person, not so much the civilized and secular Modern Enlightenment framework which grew up after the discovery of the New World and the Copernican Revolution. For even that is itself Faustian in nature, Magickal, the difference in perception lying in the belief or disbelief in the formalized ritualism of the political and social institutions.

Which is why the events of January 6th 2020 are far more important to me in a metaphysical sense as a breaching of the " sacred precincts" of what were intended as relentlessly and aggressively secular institutions.

But back specifically to the pardon of Hunter Biden. Its the same catagorical act of a " profanation" of the institutions as the mob was in breaking into the US Capital building on January 6th 2020:

Barbarism.

" Syria" is just another indication that things are being stripped down to their raw essences in the strain and clash of events. Or lack of essence as the end of Baathism shows.

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@Potemkin , @Hakeer , and @Verv , @noemon , others:

Usually when i start with something seemingly banal it turns out to be more important than i realize, and nowhere is that more evident than something that nagged at me even in the midst of world historical events like the fall of Syria to Jihadis, of which more later:

What i'm referring to at the moment is US President Biden's pardon of his son Hunter Biden for anything going back to 2014, 10 years. But what was nagging to me was what it was a signifier of; the end of ideology at the very heart of Modern Western political institutions:

I finally understood then the anger and disappointment of Liberals over Biden's pardon, because it dawned on them as well as myself how deeply personal this pardon was, coming after months of denials that Biden would ever do it. There was no ideological justification for it, nor could there be any.

Biden is not a Modern, although a Westerner. He's not qualitatively different in kind to the other Premodern Western throwback who has transcended Ideology, Donald Trump. Recall the debates between them, how embarassing they were to many civilized people, messy and incoherant? How do you debate in the old way when there's no real objective difference?

Everyone knows this if they simply ask the question: would Trump not do the very same thing in Biden's shoes as President? To ask it is to answer, of course he would, everyone knows this of the man....

Trump and Biden as heralds of the end of Modern Western Civilization, but not of the West:

What do i mean? The essence of the West is it's Promethean strivings of the Individual person, not so much the civilized and secular Modern Enlightenment framework which grew up after the discovery of the New World and the Copernican Revolution. For even that is itself Faustian in nature, Magickal, the difference in perception lying in the belief or disbelief in the formalized ritualism of the political and social institutions.

Which is why the events of January 6th 2020 are far more important to me in a metaphysical sense as a breaching of the " sacred precincts" of what were intended as relentlessly and aggressively secular institutions.

But back specifically to the pardon of Hunter Biden. Its the same catagorical act of a " profanation" of the institutions as the mob was in breaking into the US Capital building on January 6th 2020:

Barbarism.

" Syria" is just another indication that things are being stripped down to their raw essences in the strain and clash of events. Or lack of essence as the end of Baathism shows.

I agree with Amy Klobuchar on this pardoning mess…
https://www.kfoxtv.com/news/nation-worl ... y-politics
Sometimes innocent people must suffer to preserve institutions. Otherwise, many more people will suffer indefinitely into the future. It would be really tough if my own son were one of them. Honestly, I am not sure I could do what Biden failed to do in the situation, but it is nevertheless the right thing to do.

Trump is now going to pardon all his insurrectionists, and this Kash Patel dude is probably going to persecute people on the “enemy” list of political opponents like Liz Cheney.

Defenders of freedom and democracy must resist this by all LEGAL means for the next 4 years, until Democrats can defeat the MAGA fascists at the ballot box in 2026 and 2028.

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I agree with Amy Klobuchar on this pardoning mess…
https://www.kfoxtv.com/news/nation-worl ... y-politics
Sometimes innocent people must suffer to preserve institutions. Otherwise, many more people will suffer indefinitely into the future. It would be really tough if my own son were one of them. Honestly, I am not sure I could do what Biden failed to do in the situation, but it is nevertheless the right thing to do.

Trump is now going to pardon all his insurrectionists, and this Kash Patel dude is probably going to persecute people on the “enemy” list of political opponents like Liz Cheney.

Defenders of freedom and democracy must resist this by all LEGAL means for the next 4 years, until Democrats can defeat the MAGA fascists at the ballot box in 2026 and 2028.

@Hakeer :

What Biden did in pardoning his son was " barbarian" ( to use my particular political nomenclature for things) because it was the exercise of supreme power and generally without any further way of changing it, but it was weak, also, because of the typical civilized horror of punishment of any kind.

I'm reminded of this painting and the story behind it:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brutus_ ... s_to_Death

Because Brutus allowed his sons no favor in their punishment for their committing treason, nor did he recuse himself but condemned them both as the Roman Republic civil judge, and also as their father with the personal power of life or death over them as well.

This will seem as a tangent but it isnt. Im of the belief that the natural tendency of a Republic is towards a unitary powered Council or Commune and towards Socialism, the social expression of the common good.

It may seem counterintuitive then but a diffusion and division of power weakens and nullifies it and disables the ability of any one person or group of persons to fight evils. That is: the idea that " absolute power corrupts absolutely" is wrong, and thus weakness is an evil.

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@Hakeer :

What Biden did in pardoning his son was " barbarian" ( to use my particular political nomenclature for things) because it was the exercise of supreme power and generally without any further way of changing it, but it was weak, also, because of the typical civilized horror of punishment of any kind.

I'm reminded of this painting and the story behind it:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brutus_ ... s_to_Death

Because Brutus allowed his sons no favor in their punishment for their committing treason, nor did he recuse himself but condemned them both as the Roman Republic civil judge, and also as their father with the personal power of life or death over them as well.

This will seem as a tangent but it isnt. Im of the belief that the natural tendency of a Republic is towards a unitary powered Council or Commune and towards Socialism, the social expression of the common good.

It may seem counterintuitive then but a diffusion and division of power weakens and nullifies it and disables the ability of any one person or group of persons to fight evils. That is: the idea that " absolute power corrupts absolutely" is wrong, and thus weakness is an evil.

I agree with you about “barbarian” laws like the presidential pardon. It creates a sphere of dictatorial power inside the executive branch. It is especially dangerous in the hands of a would-be autocrat like Trump. He can appoint MAGA loyalists to critical agencies like DOJ and FBI, and then order them to commit crimes with the assurance of pardons for their actions. He has already done it, and surely will do more of this crap in his second term. And since this is all done through “official acts”, John Roberts & Co. have granted him “absolute immunity” from prosecution for his own crimes.

This puts Trump and all his subordinates above the law.

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I agree with you about “barbarian” laws like the presidential pardon. It creates a sphere of dictatorial power inside the executive branch. It is especially dangerous in the hands of a would-be autocrat like Trump. He can appoint MAGA loyalists to critical agencies like DOJ and FBI, and then order them to commit crimes with the assurance of pardons for their actions. He has already done it, and surely will do more of this crap in his second term. And since this is all done through “official acts”, John Roberts & Co. have granted him “absolute immunity” from prosecution for his own crimes.

This puts Trump and all his subordinates above the law.

@Hakeer , and @Potemkin , @Verv , anyone else that wants to be part of the conversation;

You said that;

I agree with you about “barbarian” laws like the presidential pardon. It creates a sphere of dictatorial power inside the executive branch

The German political philosopher Carl Schmitt once said that " sovereign is he who decides the exception". That is, the supreme authority has to be able to deem that an emergency situation exists, in which apparently extra-constitutional means have to be employed to save the constitutional order. In American history we have Abraham Lincoln using his Presidential powers to do exactly that, as a dictator which was a good thing, right?

I'd also say that this absolute power was perfectly and rightfully embodied in the trial and execution of King Louis during the French Revolution. The supreme power in the land must have absolute executionary and imprisoning powers, and pardoning and clemency powers.

Further:

It is especially dangerous in the hands of a would-be autocrat like Trump. He can appoint MAGA loyalists to critical agencies like DOJ and FBI, and then order them to commit crimes with the assurance of pardons for their actions. He has already done it, and surely will do more of this crap in his second

In Lincoln's time and for a while after American politics was entirely operating under the spoils system. And ironically, it was the identical fear to your own of the Confederate Rebels towards Lincoln using that governmental system to break the Slave Power in the US that led to their attempted Secession.

And then:

And since this is all done through “official acts”, John Roberts & Co. have granted him “absolute immunity” from prosecution for his own crimes.

The recourse is still the same as always, which is impeachment and removal from office if the votes are there.

But since i am a political barbarian and you apparently are not, let me back up a little bit :

I believe that the natural tendency of a Republic is towards a form of Commune style government being formed, like this or the Supreme Soviet of Russia, and it having no separation of powers as per what Montesqieu would have. Indeed the American Articles of Confederation were not too disimilar to these examples, and the present US Constitution could be seen as a little Counterrevolutionary.

Power in government shouldnt be divided structurally and should be absolute, but it should ideally be distributed in more hands at its apex than just one man singularly.

So this being said, human nature will strive to make this state of affairs happen in a Republic. Oligarchs and the Reactionary Lumpenproletariat and Petit-Bourgeosie can be counted on to be part of any Counterrevolutionary efforts. In 1789 AD that's what happened in America.

This puts Trump and all his subordinates above the law.

Probably not by the US Constitution, but by the organic Constitution which is unwritten but perfectly embodies every republican nation's role and purpose, we'll see.

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@Hakeer , and @Potemkin , @Verv , anyone else that wants to be part of the conversation;

You said that;




The German political philosopher Carl Schmitt once said that " sovereign is he who decides the exception". That is, the supreme authority has to be able to deem that an emergency situation exists, in which apparently extra-constitutional means have to be employed to save the constitutional order. In American history we have Abraham Lincoln using his Presidential powers to do exactly that, as a dictator which was a good thing, right?

I'd also say that this absolute power was perfectly and rightfully embodied in the trial and execution of King Louis during the French Revolution. The supreme power in the land must have absolute executionary and imprisoning powers, and pardoning and clemency powers.

Further:



In Lincoln's time and for a while after American politics was entirely operating under the spoils system. And ironically, it was the identical fear to your own of the Confederate Rebels towards Lincoln using that governmental system to break the Slave Power in the US that led to their attempted Secession.

And then:



The recourse is still the same as always, which is impeachment and removal from office if the votes are there.

But since i am a political barbarian and you apparently are not, let me back up a little bit :

I believe that the natural tendency of a Republic is towards a form of Commune style government being formed, like this or the Supreme Soviet of Russia, and it having no separation of powers as per what Montesqieu would have. Indeed the American Articles of Confederation were not too disimilar to these examples, and the present US Constitution could be seen as a little Counterrevolutionary.

Power in government shouldnt be divided structurally and should be absolute, but it should ideally be distributed in more hands at its apex than just one man singularly.

So this being said, human nature will strive to make this state of affairs happen in a Republic. Oligarchs and the Reactionary Lumpenproletariat and Petit-Bourgeosie can be counted on to be part of any Counterrevolutionary efforts. In 1789 AD that's what happened in America.



Probably not by the US Constitution, but by the organic Constitution which is unwritten but perfectly embodies every republican nation's role and purpose, we'll see.

I think Biden’s decision was wrong and Lincoln’s was right. So I guess I am a barbarian, but a different type of barbarian than you. I want rule of law as the norm, and barbarian only under very rare and extreme conditions. You want barbarian as the norm with unchecked power concentrated in your "council."

We are still a republic defined, among other things, as government chosen by a free and fair election. Trump is proof. We elected the rat in a free and fair election in 2016. We voted the rat out in 2020. We voted the rat back in 2024. And by God, we will vote them out again in 2026 and 2028.

As I have told you before, our democracy is imperfect in many ways (electoral college, Citizens United, Senate composition and rules….I could go on and on), but I still prefer -- to my grave — constitutional democracy over dictatorship.

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@Potemkin , @Verv :


@Hakeer , you said:

I think Biden’s decision was wrong and Lincoln’s was right. So I guess I am a barbarian, but a different type of barbarian than you. I want rule of law as the norm, and barbarian only under very rare and extreme conditions. You want barbarian as the norm with unchecked power concentrated in your "council."

Barbarism as I see it isnt so much against the Law as it is against a reified abstraction of Law that is a seperate standard by which both men and the gods are judged alike. And power that is checked isnt power at all. A Barbarian Republic is an Illiberal One.

We are still a republic defined, among other things, as government chosen by a free and fair election. Trump is proof. We elected the rat in a free and fair election in 2016. We voted the rat out in 2020. We voted the rat back in 2024. And by God, we will vote them out again in 2026 and 2028.

No election involving money as a factor is either free nor are they fair.

As I have told you before, our democracy is imperfect in many ways (electoral college, Citizens United, Senate composition and rules….I could go on and on), but I still prefer -- to my grave — constitutional democracy over dictatorship.

No, Dictatorship of the Proletariat for me over Dictatorship of Money any time.

Now, i had promised to elucidate on this Dictatorship and thus the continued alleged legal but real existance of the Soviet Union, relevant to this thread but specifically unique to myself.

" Vox Populi Vox Dei Est"

" the Voice of the People is the Voice of God."

I believe this, and since God had made clear by that Popular voice what was right and just, it cannot be undone. Its undoing is only apparent, as if most people are under a kind of spell, of illusion. It would take only a little thing, such as the Transnistrian Republic War and the Novorossiyan People's Republics Revolution in the Donbass, and the whole illusion will slowly begin to crumble. I know many people who saved their passports...

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@Potemkin , @Verv :


@Hakeer , you said:



Barbarism as I see it isnt so much against the Law as it is against a reified abstraction of Law that is a seperate standard by which both men and the gods are judged alike. And power that is checked isnt power at all. A Barbarian Republic is an Illiberal One.



No election involving money as a factor is either free nor are they fair.




No, Dictatorship of the Proletariat for me over Dictatorship of Money any time.

Now, i had promised to elucidate on this Dictatorship and thus the continued alleged legal but real existance of the Soviet Union, relevant to this thread but specifically unique to myself.

" Vox Populi Vox Dei Est"

" the Voice of the People is the Voice of God."

I believe this, and since God had made clear by that Popular voice what was right and just, it cannot be undone. Its undoing is only apparent, as if most people are under a kind of spell, of illusion. It would take only a little thing, such as the Transnistrian Republic War and the Novorossiyan People's Republics Revolution in the Donbass, and the whole illusion will slowly begin to crumble. I know many people who saved their passports...

John Roberts is a master of reified law. In Citizens United, suddenly money is “speech”. And the Constitution gives Trump “absolute immunity.” Try to find that anywhere in the constitution. Or all the other cases where precedents that have stood for 40-50 years in the Supreme Court (abortion, voting rights, affirmative action, Chevron, etc., etc.) are overturned. This is not rule of law. It is rule of 6 people who care more about their political agenda than the constitution.

Which bring us to the subject of checked power. The Founders wrote a constitution to distribute power among the 3 branches to prevent concentration of power into the hands of a king/dictator. That fails if 2 of the 3 abdicate their constitutional responsibilities and swear loyalty to Trump. Checked power is still power, but it is limited power. The executive branch has power to do some things but not the things assigned to the other branches.

It is impossible to have a republic by your definition of the word. You can make political donations illegal, but they will still happen under the table. The best we can do is REGULATE them, which we had prior to Citizens United. There was a $2,000 limit. Now there is no limit to “dark money.” Campaign finance reform would be very high on the agenda, if we ever can get control of the federal government.

Billionaire money makes it difficult to beat Trump, but not impossible, or else he would not have lost in 2020, and Obama would have lost, too. I am optimistic about taking the House in 2026.

I would think God wants his children to be free from political repression by a dictator. I suppose that theoretically you could have a dictator (or "council") who does not repress civil rights to protect absolute power, but history tells us it goes the other way. Soviet Union, China, Syria, North Korea. They suppress free speech, free press, free elections, etc. hallmarks of liberal democracy. That is not "voice of the people." The outcome of a free election is the voice of the people, and you don't have that with perpetual single-party rule and suppression of political freedom.

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@Potemkin , @Verv , and @Tainari88 :

While it appears to be dual tracked at this point, still, with looking at Christ and His Time on Earth and the Maccabean period, i haven't combined them, yet.

First, i want to impress how Christianity is both eternally true and temporally revolutionary both in a salvific and social/cultural sense. God is beyond and greater than His Creation, not bound like the Pagan gods to Fate/Chance/Necessity as creatures are:



The Theophany of the Trinity!

And " He saw Heaven being torn open...."


Torn open!

In either a Geocentric or a Heliocentric Cosmos, this is mind-shattering perceptually revolutionary material here!

The Heaven of the Sky opened up, the First Heaven, and the Holy Spirit came down in the form of a Dove from the Third Heaven, the Empyrean, beyond the Universe of the Starry Second Heaven:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empyrean




Prior to this unique Event and after His Birth, what happened? That's where the rest of the picture comes in, a truly revolutionary era of 30 years that has been obscured.

I also claimed you might recall that all this has everything to do recent events. Absolutely it does:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/masked-group ... 00236.html

Because the Postmodern Pagan Age is a return to the Premodern Pagan Age, as if the Modern and Christian Age never existed. Look at the Pagan Trump, the Man of Gold.... Pagan.

@Potemkin , @Verv and @Hakeer :

So if the Postmodern is the return of the Pagan Premodern Age only amplified via technology, everything Other is going to have an interpretation within the margins of the overton window:

That being said, it indicates that the paranoia is real.

Going onwards then, i cannot be much more emphatic that every person is not going to have much neutral ground to stand on with regards to whether this new narrative is correct or not. And as an Orthodox Christian i can say that most will choose incorrectly:

2 As to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we beg you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as though from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord is already here. 3 Let no one deceive you in any way, for that day will not come unless the rebellion comes first and the lawless one is revealed, the one destined for destruction. 4 He opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, declaring himself to be God. 5 Do you not remember that I told you these things when I was still with you? 6 And you know what is now restraining him, so that he may be revealed when his time comes. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work, but only until the one who now restrains it is removed. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will destroy with the breath of his mouth, annihilating him by the manifestation of his coming 9 The coming of the lawless one is apparent in the working of Satan, who uses all power, signs, lying wonders, 10 and every kind of wicked deception for those who are perishing because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion, leading them to believe what is false, 12 so that all who have not believed the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness will be condemned.


13 But we must always give thanks to God for you, brothers and sisters beloved by the Lord, because God chose you as the first fruits for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and through belief in the truth. 14 For this purpose he called you through our gospel, so that you may obtain the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 So then, brothers and sisters, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by our letter.

16 Now may our Lord Jesus Christ himself and God our Father, who loved us and through grace gave us eternal comfort and good hope, 17 comfort your hearts and strengthen them in every good work and word.

So that there is a causal link between a preparatory series of " lying wonders" and " strong delusion" that convinces many, so that they therefore follow the Antichrist.

What could do that?

In this Modern Age, is there anything insofar as an idea or set of ideas that are absolutely unique to this time period in human history? And not just unique to this time period but as ideas that have become nearly universal in belief?

I believe so.

I also believe that we all know what those ideas are too, the ideas that exploded on the scene with Modernity and kind of define that Modernity for everyone.

And the Apostle St Paul, that student of Gamaliel, he writes that these ideas are absolutely false. Nobody believed them before but almost everyone will after.

Now, i'm going to tie in the belief in those ideas with the appearence of the Magi to the Christ Child and the historical context of St Paul's " Restrainer", which all the Orthodox Fathers agreed was the Roman Empire. .

That also means that i'm going to talk about these men, among others;

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dante_Alighieri

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemistos_Plethon

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@Potemkin , @Verv and @Hakeer :

So if the Postmodern is the return of the Pagan Premodern Age only amplified via technology, everything Other is going to have an interpretation within the margins of the overton window:

That being said, it indicates that the paranoia is real.

Going onwards then, i cannot be much more emphatic that every person is not going to have much neutral ground to stand on with regards to whether this new narrative is correct or not. And as an Orthodox Christian i can say that most will choose incorrectly:



So that there is a causal link between a preparatory series of " lying wonders" and " strong delusion" that convinces many, so that they therefore follow the Antichrist.

What could do that?

In this Modern Age, is there anything insofar as an idea or set of ideas that are absolutely unique to this time period in human history? And not just unique to this time period but as ideas that have become nearly universal in belief?

I believe so.

I also believe that we all know what those ideas are too, the ideas that exploded on the scene with Modernity and kind of define that Modernity for everyone.

And the Apostle St Paul, that student of Gamaliel, he writes that these ideas are absolutely false. Nobody believed them before but almost everyone will after.

Now, i'm going to tie in the belief in those ideas with the appearence of the Magi to the Christ Child and the historical context of St Paul's " Restrainer", which all the Orthodox Fathers agreed was the Roman Empire. .

That also means that i'm going to talk about these men, among others;

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dante_Alighieri

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemistos_Plethon

@Potemkin , and @Verv ,

What i'm getting at, to condense for time and space, is that after Orthodox Christianity the pre-modern Paganism was impossible, so an analogue to Paganism resembling Christianity but maintaining the esoteric and polytheistic essence of Paganism was brought into being, while carrying on the political tradition of Alexander, the Diodochi, and the Roman Emperors via the American socio political system:

https://youtube.com/shorts/FETRtpQjork? ... IwSOkkuQJB

https://youtube.com/shorts/ck0yRIgXwPA? ... khab2midOC

Keep in mind that the Roman State had no trouble seeing Jesus of Nazareth as " a god" because of the clearly non-debatable miracles, but resisted and tried to undermine the Trinitarian, Soteriological and Christological Dogmas, always:

https://youtube.com/shorts/5UwrclDboyY? ... qNGI5G9PNY

" Pagan" Rome had to be refounded and set in a new land free from the historical boundaries of Christendom/Europe, then a syncretic religion was set up to eventually be the glue that holds it together. Then they could go fowards to try to rule the world:

America, and Mormonism.

Eventually they will even draw in Catholics and others with the doctrine of the " Heavenly Mother";

https://youtube.com/shorts/LOrC7sVO9RM? ... fPfYse52aZ

Who naturally isnt tempted to believe and wish they could become a god if they do certain things?

https://youtube.com/shorts/3NOZpt6btH4? ... _x65NEZyx-

Furthermore imagine as the Mormons do an America which is where the Garden of Eden was located, where the new Temple will be built, where the tribes of Israel are being gathered, where Christ preached among the inhabitants of the New World amid their grand drama....

Its the very religion where proud solipsistic America will come into its own, will be a great empire greater than any before in human history, self assured with this most self assuring of doctrines where the the constitutional and socio economic order are holy.. .

[annatar1914]

@Potemkin , @Verv :

On the other side of the world, and from the other hinge of fate...

Mormonism was supposed to save America by their belief, but Russia was certainly saved by Communism. Irony of Fate.

Trajectory is important. Kolchak would have been Yeltsin:

God uses crooked timber and moves straight with crooked lines, so none should boast:

[Verv]

I agree with you about “barbarian” laws like the presidential pardon. It creates a sphere of dictatorial power inside the executive branch. It is especially dangerous in the hands of a would-be autocrat like Trump. He can appoint MAGA loyalists to critical agencies like DOJ and FBI, and then order them to commit crimes with the assurance of pardons for their actions. He has already done it, and surely will do more of this crap in his second term. And since this is all done through “official acts”, John Roberts & Co. have granted him “absolute immunity” from prosecution for his own crimes.

This puts Trump and all his subordinates above the law.

It's a pretty genius maneuver that is meant to prevent legal warfare.

It will now be used frequently going forward. Obviously, there are some negative elements to this that we all want to avoid, but it's like the 2nd amendment - it can actually prevent tyranny.

[Verv]

@Potemkin , @Verv :

On the other side of the world, and from the other hinge of fate...

Mormonism was supposed to save America by their belief, but Russia was certainly saved by Communism. Irony of Fate.

Trajectory is important. Kolchak would have been Yeltsin:

God uses crooked timber and moves straight with crooked lines, so none should boast:

Sorry I just do not have enough time to consume all the media I am trying to consume regularly, so I generally do not watch any YouTube videos people send me unless I have a full explanation of the content and that makes me want to see it, or if it is music I want to listen to (lol).

For dense information, I think text is always best...

And when I come to pofo, I come for text.

[annatar1914]

It's a pretty genius maneuver that is meant to prevent legal warfare.

It will now be used frequently going forward. Obviously, there are some negative elements to this that we all want to avoid, but it's like the 2nd amendment - it can actually prevent tyranny.

@Verv :

Indeed the ability to make a clean sweep of official posts in government and stock those positions with persons in ideological alignment with each other strengthens the role of the people, same as with the second amendment. That is, the reminder that the people are sovereign.

[Verv]

@Verv :

Indeed the ability to make a clean sweep of official posts in government and stock those positions with persons in ideological alignment with each other strengthens the role of the people, same as with the second amendment. That is, the reminder that the people are sovereign.

Yes!

To paraphrase Mark 2:27... The laws were made for man, not man for the laws.

I was looking into it and there is this also very interesting verse from 1 Timothy 1:9:

“Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,”

Oikonomie is the rule... And the laws that we do have are intended for the benefit of people, to make them more free, and not to hinder them.

[annatar1914]

Sorry I just do not have enough time to consume all the media I am trying to consume regularly, so I generally do not watch any YouTube videos people send me unless I have a full explanation of the content and that makes me want to see it, or if it is music I want to listen to (lol).

For dense information, I think text is always best...

And when I come to pofo, I come for text.

@Verv :

No need for apologies, you know that i like to use both video and text to make a point.

By february 1917, the Romanovs had reached the point of illegitimacy and were overthrown by the Soviets of the Soldiers and Workers/Peasants, while a " Provisional Government" of the Bourgeosie claimed rule and was determined to continue the war with the Central Powers.

Ultimately this devolved into the Russian Civil War in which the White Guard was perfectly willing to sell off Russia to their allies as long as they could rule over the ruins and get their cut. Their "Supreme Ruler of Russia" Admiral Kolchak, a traitorous agent of the British, was the perfect exemplar of this attitude. The Bolsheviks then saved Russia from being destroyed in that 1917-1924 period, not just in 1941-1945 with the Great Patriotic War.

[annatar1914]

Yes!

To paraphrase Mark 2:27... The laws were made for man, not man for the laws.

I was looking into it and there is this also very interesting verse from 1 Timothy 1:9:



Oikonomie is the rule... And the laws that we do have are intended for the benefit of people, to make them more free, and not to hinder them.

@Verv :

Absolutely! Its not that i as a Communist are some kind of Utopian or somehow am unaware of sinful human nature, quite the contrary.

I want a situation where society can exist with everyone getting something on a broad and just basis, rather than leave everyone ravaged and exterminated by bandits, to have nothing at all.