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Opinion on this matter is contentious and divided . On one side you have those such as this legal commentator , who is clutching his pearls over this , and on the other those such as this political comedian who couldn't care less . As for me I say to hell with both of the major parties , Democrats and Republicans alike , and may God damn America . :muha2:




#15331833
It's no more corrupt than Ford's pardon for Nixon, US politics is already so far in the gutter it would be hard to find something that has not already been done. I wonder if Biden will do anymore pardons before he leaves, maybe one for the loss adjuster if he gets caught?

Now, THEREFORE, I, GERALD R. FORD, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this eighth day of September, in the year of our Lord nineteen hundred and seventy-four, and of the Independence of the United States of America the one hundred and ninety-ninth.
#15331835
“Opinion on this matter is divided. I say it’s okay, and everyone else says it isn’t.” :excited:
#15331836
Everything they accuse Trump of being, of wanting to do - they are, they do it first, etc. 'Projection' should be in the dictionary next to Neo-liberal.

-Bidens are more corrupt and nepotistic than the entire Trump extended family.
-Obama was harsher on the border and on illegal migrants than even Trump in 2025 is going to be.
-Clinton actually grabbed women by the pussy
-Jimmy Carter was the 2nd foreign government stooge, singularly responsible for ending US industrial power, transferring everything to China.
-Lyndon B. Johnson was the 1st notable foreign government stooge, allowing Soviet Marxism into US institutions, which paved the way for extreme polarization of the population and a huge cadre of America-hating Marxists at all levels of education.

The projection is absolutely oozing out of every orifice of the DNC.
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Igor Antunov wrote:Lyndon B. Johnson was the 1st notable foreign government stooge, allowing Soviet Marxism into US institutions, which paved the way for extreme polarization of the population and a huge cadre of America-hating Marxists at all levels of education.


Marxists in the United States? What on earth are you talking about, the US does not have a left. They don't even have social democrats over there let alone Marxists.
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Decky wrote:Marxists in the United States? What on earth are you talking about, the US does not have a left. They don't even have social democrats over there let alone Marxists.


I refer to faux cultural Marxists. I challenge you to step on an average university campus. And then hit up the local HR department at the average American company. Have you been in a coma for decades? Cultural Marxism is the default.
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Igor Antunov wrote:I refer to faux cultural Marxists. I challenge you to step on an average university campus. And then hit up the local HR department at the average American company. Have you been in a coma for decades? Cultural Marxism is the default.


Decky is right. Cultural Marxism was a bullshit tag to refer to the woke.

The woke are not marxists, nor even leftists, they are just people with severe mental health problems and no economic or social tag should ever grace them other than that of "insane".

Even the word "marxism" is giving them more credit than they are due as well as bothering a whole bunch of marxists who detest US imperialism(wokesters don't) or who have a iota of understanding in economics and history which the wokesters again don't.
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Igor Antunov wrote:I refer to faux cultural Marxists. I challenge you to step on an average university campus. And then hit up the local HR department at the average American company. Have you been in a coma for decades? Cultural Marxism is the default.


So you are just using the term Marxist to refer to something totally different with no relation whatsoever with Marxists. Deeply normal behavior.
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Decky wrote:the US does not have a left. They don't even have social democrats over there let alone Marxists.

By that idiotic logic the US does not have a right. We've been constantly told that Hitler and the Nazis were ultra right. There's not a single party of any significance that opposes Jewish-Gentile intermarriage let alone supports extermination of the Jews. Anyone who condones sexual relations between Jews and Gentiles is by definition a left winger.

A huge percentage of American academia identify as Marxists privately if not openly.
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Rich wrote:By that idiotic logic the US does not have right. We've been constantly told that Hitler and the Nazis were ultra right. There's not a single party of any significance that opposes Jewish-Gentile intermarriage let alone supports extermination of the Jews. Anyone who condones sexual relations between Jews and Gentiles is by definition a left winger.

A huge percentage of American academia identify as Marxists privately if not openly.

Intelligent, educated people tend to become Marxists. Funny how that works, isn’t it @Rich? :)
#15331878
Wokeism is leftist but their nonsense can be perfectly adapted by the right and arguably that's exactly where much of it comes from.

E.g. Decolonization of science = Adaptation of Nazis advocating for Deutsche Physik to fight or displace Judische Physik.
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wat0n wrote:Wokeism is leftist but their nonsense can be perfectly adapted by the right and arguably that's exactly where much of it comes from.

E.g. Decolonization of science = Adaptation of Nazis advocating for Deutsche Physik to fight or displace Judische Physik.

I can remember when I was doing my MPhil in nuclear physics, we were visited by a female ‘progressive’ who asked us why we didn’t “make physics more attractive for female students “. She didn’t seem to understand that science, as a subject, is what it is. It was not deliberately shaped by male professors to be unpleasant and unwelcoming for female students. It’s a very abstract, very mathematical discipline which requires rigorous logic and abstract thought. Women can excel at it, and have done so, but the subject cannot be ‘reformed’ to make it more appealing to women in general. This is a fundamental misconception, and is even based on an essentialist interpretation of what it means to be a woman. It was then that I began to understand the idiocy of the “woke” ideology.
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Potemkin wrote:I can remember when I was doing my MPhil in nuclear physics, we were visited by a female ‘progressive’ who asked us why we didn’t “make physics more attractive for female students “. She didn’t seem to understand that science, as a subject, is what it is. It was not deliberately shaped by male professors to be unpleasant and unwelcoming for female students. It’s a very abstract, very mathematical discipline which requires rigorous logic and abstract thought. Women can excel at it, and have done so, but the subject cannot be ‘reformed’ to make it more appealing to women in general. This is a fundamental misconception, and is even based on an essentialist interpretation of what it means to be a woman. It was then that I began to understand the idiocy of the “woke” ideology.


Indeed, it's one of the many eternal contradictions of postmodern identity politics and the posturing that they're anti-essentialist. Thankfully, it seems the public is moving on to reject it (as it was bound to happen eventually).
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wat0n wrote:Indeed, it's one of the many eternal contradictions of postmodern identity politics and the posturing that they're anti-essentialist. Thankfully, it seems the public is moving on to reject it (as it was bound to happen eventually).

I have always regarded the (populist) “woke” ideology as part and parcel of the post-modernist movement, just the ideological tumour produced by late capitalism. Ironically, the original “woke” movement had some value - it originated in the African-American community, as a call to “wake up”, to become aware of their own position as an oppressed minority in American society. It was taken over by white middle-class liberals (as these things things usually are) and morphed into the excrescence we see today.
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On the topic of so called , "cultural Marxism" , a play on a term that the Nazis originated , called cultural Bolshevism , as well as the somewhat related notion of "wokeness" , I feel that we must first clearly define what exactly is meant . Because in practice it appears to me that these terms are simply loaded language , typically used by right-wing political cults as a thought terminating cliche . And I will say that , as an actual rather than cultural Marxist , if by " woke cultural Marxists" , the likes of @Igor Antunov are referring to liberal social justice warriors , then we don't care for such bourgeois pseudo-leftists either .


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