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#15331986
noemon wrote:https://twitter.com/USEmbassySyria/status/864144602584035328



Cute. They're all based and bankrolled from Turkey. Like I said this Turkish project does not have Western/US backing. It came as a surprise to everybody. I'm sure the US long-term will overlook a little jihadist atrocity or three to keep Turkey in NATO.
#15331988
Igor Antunov wrote:Cute. They're all based and bankrolled from Turkey. Like I said this Turkish project does not have Western/US backing. It came as a surprise to everybody. I'm sure the US long-term will overlook a little jihadist atrocity or three to keep Turkey in NATO.


@Igor Antunov :

I think that the American establishment has decided to outsource its middle eastern problems resolutions to Turkiye. Israel should be wary.
#15331991
annatar1914 wrote:@Igor Antunov :

I think that the American establishment has decided to outsource its middle eastern problems resolutions to Turkiye. Israel should be wary.


No, It was our design from day 1. Turkey , Israel, CIA , etc we all work together for one goal. grandpa Saddam Putsein is the next one!

Video of Assad war -criminals trying to catch the last plane out of Damascus before the rebels arrive :lol:
https://x.com/i/status/1865577716189217028
https://x.com/i/status/1865704027276673408
#15331992
Igor Antunov wrote:Kurds are getting wiped from the map quickly:


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And Israel has begun invading and bombing the 'Rebels'.

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We can conclude this is a Turkish operation. Explains assads impromptu visit to Moscow 10 days prior to the 'rebel' offensive. He looked pissed in photos. Agreement between Erdogan, Putin and Iranian President. My guess is Turkey stops supplying Ukraine with weapons, joins Brics and allows the Russian pipeline into Europe, Iran gets the nuclear bomb quickly and Turkey gets a little Ottoderp Empire like good old days. Russia and Iran traded Syria for Edogans ambitions, which are antithetical to Israel, Europe and NATO. Erdogan has been playing his strategic position masterfully.

The fate of the Kurds should be everybody's concern, it looks bleak. With the fall of the last socialist Arab regime, the socialist kurds are about to meet the bulk of the Armenian population in heaven, courtesy of the eternal Turk.


Syrian rebels in Damascus walking around Assad's presidential palace. An outcome that would have seemed impossible 10 days ago. Dictators fall quickly .... ivan, your Saddam Putsein is the next one 8)
https://x.com/i/status/1865675807836045568
#15331997
litwin wrote:No, It was our design from day 1. Turkey , Israel, CIA , etc we all work together for one goal. grandpa Saddam Putsein is the next one!

Video of Assad war -criminals trying to catch the last plane out of Damascus before the rebels arrive :lol:
https://x.com/i/status/1865577716189217028
https://x.com/i/status/1865704027276673408


Well we know Israel isn't part of it beyond the conceptual phase, given it's resorting to bombing the rebel held bases and sending troops into Syria so late in the party. It is clearly reacting.

And no, Turkey isn't working with the CIA independent of the US government, which you failed to mention, given that the literal CIA assets (i.e the FSA group that moved in towards Damascus from Palmyra) are now being bombed by Israel. And let's not even mention the Kurds which do not fit anywhere in your little triarchy. Therefore this is Turkey acting on its own after receiving some kind of signal from Russia and Iran. Note there are no SAA translators hanging off Russian jets as they leave bases...
#15331998
Igor Antunov wrote:Kurds are getting wiped from the map quickly:


Image

And Israel has begun invading and bombing the 'Rebels'.

Image

We can conclude this is a Turkish operation. Explains assads impromptu visit to Moscow 10 days prior to the 'rebel' offensive. He looked pissed in photos. Agreement between Erdogan, Putin and Iranian President. My guess is Turkey stops supplying Ukraine with weapons, joins Brics and allows the Russian pipeline into Europe, Iran gets the nuclear bomb quickly and Turkey gets a little Ottoderp Empire like good old days. Russia and Iran traded Syria for Edogans ambitions, which are antithetical to Israel, Europe and NATO. Erdogan has been playing his strategic position masterfully.

The fate of the Kurds should be everybody's concern, it looks bleak. With the fall of the last socialist Arab regime, the socialist kurds are about to meet the bulk of the Armenian population in heaven, courtesy of the eternal Turk.

Meanwhile Kurds are destroying Hafez Assad statue in downtown Qamishlo, NE Syria :lol:
https://x.com/i/status/1865612983465865266
#15332000
litwin wrote:No, It was our design from day 1. Turkey , Israel, CIA , etc we all work together for one goal. grandpa Saddam Putsein is the next one!

Video of Assad war -criminals trying to catch the last plane out of Damascus before the rebels arrive :lol:
https://x.com/i/status/1865577716189217028
https://x.com/i/status/1865704027276673408


@litwin :

"We"? Lol you're just a little lackey im afraid, one of the Kholoptsy.

Turks sold out the Ukrainian Bandera, and Israel should be concerned as well. Jihadists are doing fine its true, for now.
#15332001
ingliz wrote:I can imagine Syria turning into another 'Libya' ruled by 100 competing head-chopping warlords.


:)


Same, I can imagine Syria splitting by ethnic and sectarian lines like Yugoslavia did. That's possibly the only way for the war to actually end, realistically speaking.

Which is why the Israeli move to take the buffer zone makes sense.
#15332002
annatar1914 wrote:@litwin :

"We"? Lol you're just a little lackey im afraid, one of the Kholoptsy.

Turks sold out the Ukrainian Bandera, and Israel should be concerned as well. Jihadists are doing fine its true, for now.



IVAN , have you slept well this night :lol: ? take your pills and relax , your tsar is the next one in line 8)
Assad army collapse driven by economic woes, sanctions 8) , and attacks: Analysis


Moscow empire struggles with war costs as Saddam Putsein abandons key ally

#15332004
The image of the busses came into my mind. The busses carrying surrounded jihadi fighters to jihadi controlled territory. The problem with Gaza has always been how can you negotiate a deal with surrounded Jihadi fighters in Gaza, if there is no place that will accept them. Could we see Hamas fighters bussed or shipped to Jihadi controlled Syria? I don't know its just an idea.
#15332005
litwin wrote:IVAN , have you slept well this night :lol: ? take your pills and relax , your tsar is the next one in line 8)
Assad army collapse driven by economic woes, sanctions 8) , and attacks: Analysis


Moscow empire struggles with war costs as Saddam Putsein abandons key ally



@litwin :

Slept just fine, thank you. My Tsar is the Lord, God Man Jesus Christ, and the Bogoroditsa the Tsarina of Holy Rus. You wont be able to overthrow His Commonwealth. You're welcome to be part of It though.
#15332006
Igor Antunov wrote:Cute. They're all based and bankrolled from Turkey. Like I said this Turkish project does not have Western/US backing. It came as a surprise to everybody. I'm sure the US long-term will overlook a little jihadist atrocity or three to keep Turkey in NATO.


I disagree with your theory about Turkey acting without coordinating with the US and Israel.

If Turkey had not coordinated with the US, western media would be all over Erdogan, they aren't.

There is a theory being pushed by Kurdish Syrian accounts that allegedly Golani has already betrayed Erdogan(by coming out for a pluralistic Syria instead of for partition as allegedly initially agreed) and that Turkey has now blocked HTS bank accounts.

All these should be taken with a huge grain of salt as the multitude of Syrian parties are all throwing conflicting information around each serving some kind of narrative.
#15332008
@noemon :

Regardless of coordination or not, this is a big win for Turkiye and that is something that everyone will be paying for in a few years. I dont think that the West minds much now, because i believe that they think that they can get away with outsourcing their middle eastern problems to the Turks for a solution.

Over time they'll be meddling in the Balkans, for sure.

@Igor Antunov could be right Noemon. Israelis are attacking Jihadi positions:

https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/h1nlgw7ejx#autoplay


According to reports, Air Force jets attacked at noon (Sunday) the Al-Maza military airport in Damascus, Halakhala in southern Syria – where there is also a central airport – as well as the rural areas of Daraa and As-Suwayda. Our commentator Yossi Yehoshua adds that the targets of the strikes are weapons depots and surface-to-surface missiles.
Just this morning, rebels were photographed at Al-Maza, one of the main airfields of the Syrian Air Force, which has also been attacked by Israel in the past. The Syrian “Voice of the Capital”, affiliated with the opposition, said that “Israel is systematically destroying all the brigades and battalions of the previous regime in southern Syria, while directly attacking all the air defense systems, missile depots and development and production institutes. Any place that participated, produced, or developed weapons that could threaten Israel.” Later, “Voice of the Capital” reported that talks are underway on a Russian-Israeli agreement to hand over strategic sites in the rural areas of Daraa and Quneitra to Israeli forces, mainly Tel al-Hara.

An hour later, the same website reported that Israeli attacks in the Damascus area continued. “The Israeli army has prepared a bank of targets that will be destroyed in the coming hours,” it reported, noting that, among other things, Republican Guard and 4th Division posts in the Qasioun area were attacked.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reported that Israel had penetrated various areas in the Quneitra countryside using tanks and armored vehicles, as far as the a-Raqad bridge. Israeli forces, according to the report, also approached civilian homes in the village of al-Hamidiya north of Quneitra. It was alleged that the forces shot and killed a young man from the town of Jabata in the northern Quneitra countryside, arrested all the residents of the village of Rassem a-Rawadi and took them to the village school.

Last night, according to foreign reports, Air Force fighter jets carried out waves of strikes around Damascus, with the aim of destroying advanced weapons arrays and weapons production facilities that could fall into the hands of the rebels. In addition, a chemical weapons depot in Syria was attacked last night. The IDF updated this morning that “in light of the events in Syria and in accordance with the assessment of the situation and the possibility of armed men entering the buffer zone, the IDF has deployed forces in the buffer zone and at a number of points necessary for defense, in order to ensure the security of the Golan Heights communities and Israeli citizens.”

The army emphasized that “the IDF does not intervene in the events taking place in Syria and will continue to act as long as necessary to preserve the buffer zone and protect the State of Israel and its citizens.” According to reports, the IDF has conveyed warning messages to the rebels who occupy the Syrian Golan Heights and overthrew the regime of Bashar al-Assad not to cross the Alpha Line, from which the demilitarized zone begins.
#15332012
annatar1914 wrote:@noemon :

Regardless of coordination or not, this is a big win for Turkiye and that is something that everyone will be paying for in a few years. I dont think that the West minds much now, because i believe that they think that they can get away with outsourcing their middle eastern problems to the Turks for a solution.

Over time they'll be meddling in the Balkans, for sure.


Both Macron and Scholz have come out with support for the rebels in the last few hours so, yeah, things haven't changed since 2011. France was early in demanding Assad's departure and first in recognizing the national coalition (SOC) as the legitimate opposition to the regime. The rise of Daesh gave some pause with the string of gruesome terror attacks in France in 2016, but now we seem to be back on track.

Everything in life is priorities and compromises. With near total focus on combating Russian influence on several fronts (Eastern Europe, Middle East, Northern Africa), many things have become permissible that earlier would be unthinkable. Even if Turkey became more involved in the Balkans, it might not sway them, as we've seen growing Russian influence in several countries in the region. They might calculate that Turkish influence might off-set this. Handling Turkey is like going to battle with a cobra in your hand, not knowing which way it's going to bite.
#15332014
MadMonk wrote:Both Macron and Scholz have come out with support for the rebels in the last few hours so, yeah, things haven't changed since 2011. France was early in demanding Assad's departure and first in recognizing the national coalition (SOC) as the legitimate opposition to the regime. The rise of Daesh gave some pause with the string of gruesome terror attacks in France in 2016, but now we seem to be back on track.

Everything in life is priorities and compromises. With near total focus on combating Russian influence on several fronts (Eastern Europe, Middle East, Northern Africa), many things have become permissible that earlier would be unthinkable. Even if Turkey became more involved in the Balkans, it might not sway them, as we've seen growing Russian influence in several countries in the region. They might calculate that Turkish influence might off-set this. Handling Turkey is like going to battle with a cobra in your hand, not knowing which way it's going to bite.


@MadMonk :

Macron is already in a state of Dhimmitude, as is Scholz. Too many Muslim immigrants from these lands in France and Germany to risk their ire in a confrontation with Turkiye.
#15332016
MadMonk wrote:Both Macron and Scholz have come out with support for the rebels in the last few hours so, yeah, things haven't changed since 2011. France was early in demanding Assad's departure and first in recognizing the national coalition (SOC) as the legitimate opposition to the regime. The rise of Daesh gave some pause with the string of gruesome terror attacks in France in 2016, but now we seem to be back on track.


:eh:

What should they say? Bring back Assad? Even Russia and Iran are now calling them "opposition groups" instead of terrorists.

Either way, what accelerated the process was Israel's decimation of Hezbollah. Not sure why people don't recognize this. That doesn't mean Israel or anybody else planned this. I think Assad was just seen as a lost cause and the events that unfolded confirm this.

As for 2011. Back then there was arguably a chance to achieve victory for more moderate Sunni rebel groups. But of course Obama fucked this up so now we have potential fanatics in power (no idea what to expect from these guys).
#15332018
litwin wrote:or peacefully like Czechoslovakia , its all up to us and Syrian nations .

https://x.com/i/status/1865643134824206663


Maybe, let's hope it goes that way. Interestingly though it seems the rebels have actually entered Latakia:



This is surprising to me, but this would explain why the SAA just didn't put up much of a fight. There's no hope for Assad if even the Alawites had had enough of him.
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