[litwin]

If this is an accurate translation of the speech , then Erdogan is a neo-Ottoman imperialist , and as much if not more of an expansionist as Putin . However , Turkey is still a part of N.A.T.O. , alongside Greece of all countries . So I think that this could be a source of tension within the region . Especially as the United States continues to back the Syrian Democratic Forces .

https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2020/11/09/erdogan-a-man-obsessed-with-neo-ottomanism/

https://www.eurasiantimes.com/pan-islamism-neo-ottomanism-how-turkey-is-destabilizing/?amp

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/americas-closest-ally-syria-losing-ground-new-order-116685261

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5031222-syria-collapse-us-counter-isis/

Erdogan is just talking about imperialistic expansionism, meanwhile your fav Moscow empire is expending from day one (1991)




ps

Displaced Syrians in Lebanon: Refugees celebrate the fall of Assad in the streets

[litwin]

Tens of thousands of Syrians celebrate 'Friday of Victory' | DW News

[Rich]

Erdogan is just talking about imperialistic expansionism, meanwhile your fav Moscow empire is expending from day one (1991)

Ah so you now admit that you've been lying for the last two years and modern Russia is not just a continuation of the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union far from being a vehicle of Russian nationalist expansion was a vehicle of Russian mutilation. It was totally within Stalin's power not only to bring Kharkov and Kiev back to Russia but Warsaw too. If Stalin had wanted Tallinn, it could have been made part of Russia as well. Even Finland, If Stalin had chosen to re-annex Finland to Russia there was little the western allies could have done to stop him.

Unlike Russia, Turkey did not end World War 1 with an international Communist regime in power. The Turkish nationalists like the the Bolsheviks fought on after the general war came to an end, but unlike the Bolsheviks the Turkish regime kept every part of the territory it controlled as part of Turkey including huge areas that had not been majority Turkish. Turkey settled the lands that it had genocided and ethnically cleansed of Armenians and Greeks but Turkey is still engaged in the huge project of Turkishisation of the Kurdish areas.

Unlike with Russia there just not large Turkish populations waiting to be liberated from alien ethnic dominance.

[litwin]

Ah so you now admit that you've been lying for the last two years and modern Russia is not just a continuation of the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union far from being a vehicle of Russian nationalist expansion was a vehicle of Russian mutilation. It was totally within Stalin's power not only to bring Khakhov and Kiev back to Russia but Warsaw too. If Stalin had wanted Tallinn, it could have been made part of Russia as well. Even Finland, If Stalin had chosen to re-annex Finland to Russia there was little the western allies could have done to stop him.

Unlike Russia, Turkey did not end World War 1 with an international Communist regime in power. The Turkish nationalists like the the Bolsheviks fought on after the general war came to an end, but unlike the Bolsheviks the Turkish regime kept every part of the territory it controlled as part of turkey including huge areas that had not been majority Turkish. Turkey settled the lands that it had genocided and ethnically cleansed of Armenians and Greeks but Turkey is still engaged in the huge project of Turkishisation of the Kurdish areas.

Unlike with Russia there just not large Turkish populations waiting to be liberated from from alien ethnic dominance.

age of the empires has gone, Turks know it , your fav. Muscovites dont ...Too bad for them, they (google : The Hague) are gonna pay the full price for it.
read this : "Blood and Iron: How Nationalist Imperialism Became Moscow’s imperial Ideology"
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/u ... t-ukraine/
https://carnegieendowment.org/research/ ... gy?lang=en
Why Syria's army didn't fight for Assad: A soldier's story

[Rich]

I expect like all true or even half true Muslims in the long run Erdoğan would like to see Israel wiped off the map. It was Israel in 2013, in conjunction with Saudi Arabia that determined that the Assad regime had to be saved and invited Russia to come in. Erdogan was not happy about that, not one bit. He was quite happy to go to war with Russia even shooting down a Russian plane. However the West made quite clear that they hanging Erdogan and the rebels out to dry. I strongly suspect that Erdogan has not forgiven the West for that betrayal.

In the short term Erdogan's overwhelming priority will be the Kurds but if he can deal with them then going forward I expect the fundamental conflict in Syria will be between Turkey and Israel. Within the context of that conflict I can imagine scenarios where a Russian presence could advantage or disadvantage either side.

When the Ukrainians decided to fight for Mariupol, I thought Putin could be in trouble here. By trouble I didn't imagine Russia was going to lose Crimea or the Donbas, or any of that fantastical nonsense. No I just thought Putin and the Russian armed forces are going to have difficulty bringing this war to a successful conclusion. And that analysis proved correct. There's no way that Putin or the Russian high command wanted to be still fighting that war two and half years on.

Erdogan has sought to play both sides to his advantage in the Ukraine war. However if Erdogan had actually thrown his full support behind Ukraine, Putin would have been a lot more trouble. However this came about, Erdogan has got the thing he really wanted from Putin, the removal of the Assad regime. As I said before, I could be wrong but I really doubt that this turn of events in Syria will prove to be of advantage for Syria and it could prove very bad indeed. In fact I think it would be to Ukraine's benefit if Russia keeps its Syrian bases and remains more of a threat to Israeli and western hegemony in the Middle East and Africa.

[Deutschmania]

NATO Chief: NATO needs your pensions.

Reminds me of this political cartoon I saw from back in the 60's .

[annatar1914]

Sharia law the law of the land in Syria now:

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1866849985431474566

To all those who refused to see this coming and for all the liars who pretended that it wouldn't because they wanted Sharia secretly there...

God judges and sees.

[litwin]

Sharia law the law of the land in Syria now:

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1866849985431474566

To all those who refused to see this coming and for all the liars who pretended that it wouldn't because they wanted Sharia secretly there...

God judges and sees.

Moscow empire announces it’s stopping grain shipments to Syria. Ukraine announces it’s starting grain shipments to Syria.


This tells us a lot actually…

Relations between Turkey, Israel and Ukraine continues to improve. Good . they will maintain a balance of power in the Black and Mediterranean Seas.

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1868088907105235018

[Negotiator]

However if Erdogan had actually thrown his full support behind Ukraine, Putin would have been a lot more trouble.

There isnt enough sarcasm in the world to give a proper answer to this retarded idea.

Of course Turkey, who tries to join the EU since decades but gets refused because of its low productivity and besides depends upon Russia among others for its wealth could totally have changed the ukrainian war. I guess by spelling out "Abracadabra !" or something.

Probably just like the economically much stronger Germany did.

Then again they also claim that the economically even much weaker North Korea would change much in the same conflict, just on the other side. Russia aint no problem, but now that NK joined, all hope is lost !

It all makes sense now. If you let go of basic common sense.

[Rich]

So Netanyahu has announced that the number of Jewish settlements on the Golan heights is to be doubled. This is welcome news it sends a clear message to Mr Golani, no the name is not a coincidence, that the Golan is going to remain free from Muslim tyranny. I don't think this enough though. There needs to be an HTS / SNA exclusion zone adjacent to the Golan heights. Only military personal approved by Israel should be allowed to enter. I believe we can negotiate with Muslim terrorists, but we need to talk to them in a language they can understand, not the legalistic moralism that so many Liberals love to spout. When the Muslim terrorist has the upper hand he will never respect"national sovereignty". We shouldn't be so weak and cowarldy to tie ourselves up knots with this nonsense when we have the upper hand.

[Skynet]

China built its leading chemical industry with drugs.

Why Should Syria not do the same???

When you can cook Fentanyl you can cook any medication.

[Skynet]

China built its leading chemical industry with drugs.

Why Should Syria not do the same???

When you can cook Fentanyl you can cook Viagra and Aspirin.

Israel does it too:

https://www.haaretz.com/2003-04-06/ty-a ... e70efa0000



It the Rebels do not do it are they not Machiavellian enough to rule.

North-Kore does is it also:

Illicit activities of North Korea

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki
·

The alleged illicit activities of the North Korean state include manufacture and sale of illegal drugs ... It is alleged that North Korea's illegal drug trade ..




Syria has two options for progress Petroindustry or "Chemical" industry.

[annatar1914]

Things are more complicated;

[litwin]

Things are more complicated;

Moscow empire withdrawal gives Syrians 'hope' for the future | James Longman

[litwin]

Ah so you now admit that you've been lying for the last two years and modern Russia is not just a continuation of the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union far from being a vehicle of Russian nationalist expansion was a vehicle of Russian mutilation. It was totally within Stalin's power not only to bring Kharkov and Kiev back to Russia but Warsaw too. If Stalin had wanted Tallinn, it could have been made part of Russia as well. Even Finland, If Stalin had chosen to re-annex Finland to Russia there was little the western allies could have done to stop him.

Unlike Russia, Turkey did not end World War 1 with an international Communist regime in power. The Turkish nationalists like the the Bolsheviks fought on after the general war came to an end, but unlike the Bolsheviks the Turkish regime kept every part of the territory it controlled as part of Turkey including huge areas that had not been majority Turkish. Turkey settled the lands that it had genocided and ethnically cleansed of Armenians and Greeks but Turkey is still engaged in the huge project of Turkishisation of the Kurdish areas.

Unlike with Russia there just not large Turkish populations waiting to be liberated from alien ethnic dominance.

Their labour in demand, Germany's Syrians are in no rush to leave. The richest country in Europe with more money than the UK and Spain combined
STOP, Moscow trolls& useful idiots are telling us that German economy is collapsing without cheap, stolen (by Moscow imperialists ) from Siberian natives oil - gas , and all Syrians in EU are Jihad lovers , who is lying? express or Moscow trolls& Moscow useful idiots ?


The richest country in Europe with more money than the UK and Spain combined


https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/19 ... my-germany


Their labour in demand, Germany's Syrians are in no rush to leave

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/th ... 024-12-13/

[litwin]

"Turkey can cut off all of our logistics and we will turn into a puddle,"



https://x.com/i/status/1868356794294366529

[noemon]

[noemon]

Congratulations to those dim enough to believe it was possible to be anti-Zionist and pro-coup in Syria.

You have delivered the Zionists what was beyond Herzl's wildest dreams. Not only have you eradicated Syria culturally and geographically but you have eradicated Palestine and created Greater Israel. This was always obvious; always inevitable; and the basis of anti-imperialist opposition to this regime change mission. It will now take a Herculean task, which can only be performed by the actually anti-Zionist regional forces of the Resistance Axis, to reconstitute, recover, resupply and reshape the war for Palestine. To do this, it will have to take a much more aggressive posture.

By the eradication of Palestine, I mean something very specific: you have rescued the Zionists from existential defeat by turning this war in their favour. Whether you knew it or not, that was the objective of the chief sponsors of this regime change operation.

For Erdoğan, it's a chance to recover his desperate domestic political position and finally steal the industrial heartlands of Syria, as he has been doing in phases throughout the past decade in an asset-stripping rampage. And to cement, once and for all, the blood ties between Turkey and the Zionist state by redrawing the map of the Eastern Mediterranean and West Asia together.

For Qatar, delivering Syrian territory on a plate to the Zionists supposedly gives them immunity from Trump's cabinet of hawks, underscoring their loyalty to and reliability for the American imperial project in West Asia. The gas and construction billions (and Qatar's consequent increased strategic importance to Europe and the US) that will follow from a new pipeline to Europe and rebuilding Syria's ruins were their key original motivation for sponsoring regime change. Another consequence is that Qatar gets to play at nation-building, something its elites are still sore they couldn't do in Egypt when the UAE launched a coup against the Mursi regime, replacing the Muslim Brotherhood with military dictatorship to cut short the Arab Spring. Fourteen years and billions of dollars of investment in Zionising Syria via various terror factions have also drawn Qatari policymakers much personally closer to the CIA and Mossad, which is useful for the 'mediation' role Qatar prizes so highly.

The Americans have taken the largest and most strategically significant bastion of Arabism (a now defunct idea) and an ally of Russia, the Islamic Republic and China, and will turn it into an economic basket case while telling the world it's a Muslim Singapore. In deposing Bashar, they have decapitated the fulcrum of anti-imperialism in the Levant and the only Arab state leader of the past few decades able to enunciate an intellectually coherent materialist theory of empire, as well as an advocate of de-dollarisation. The rump state carved from former Syria will now be ruled by ISIS-in-suits with Milei characteristics. The Americans have already been ruling a third of Syria (a landmass the size of Croatia) for a decade and stealing all of Syria's considerable oil and wheat resources in one of the most brazen acts of imperial piracy in modern history. Their starvation sanctions have led us to this point more than any other single factor, throttling the rest of the country while Idlib under the ISIS hordes was allowed to trade freely.

For the UK, which has led at different stages of the war alongside the UAE and then Qatar on propaganda for the regime change project, it's also a way of proving to the Americans that this economically unproductive and politically irrelevant rainy little island still has something to offer the Empire in the shape of PR firms, lobbying shops, gun-runners and traffickers of gullible Salafi sectarians.

Last but certainly not least: for the Zionists, it's beyond a dream. They have gone from stasis in an existential war in which they met none of their initial objectives and had to resort to chaotic assassinations, to destroying their largest remaining Arab military foe and having free rein on all of Syria on land should they wish, as well as certain domination of the skies and seas once the Russian naval and air bases are evacuated. They own Syria now, everyone else is just living in it. The Chabad will tell you that, as will Jawlani every time he's interviewed.

Nations can only exist and be sovereign when they control their territory. Syria no longer exists, after having been chipped away at for fourteen years by the most expensive and largest regime change campaign in US history. Frankly, it's a miracle that it was able to survive so long in the face of this David v Goliath onslaught. What exists now are US-held territories and military bases (some of which could be used to attack Iraq); ever-expanding Turkish territory which could result in Aleppo being culturally or politically absorbed into Turkey (a major long-term prize); and a deeply sectarian Damascus regime under former Islamic State in Iraq (ISI) deputy and al-Qa'ida in Syria leader, Abu Muhammad al-Jawlani, which also answers directly to Turkish intelligence.

The ISIS-in-suits regime is likely to sign a Zionisation deal just for sanctions relief, so recovering the oilfields seems unlikely, especially under Trump. But a Zionisation deal being floated may encourage some Syrians to rethink their support for their new ISIS overlords and cause a new domestic Resistance movement to emerge, under extreme punishment and threat from the gaggle of US allies who now run former Syria.

[annatar1914]

Jihadis terrorizing Christians in Syria:



A perfectly predictable outcome.

[Skynet]

@annatar1914 Do not overanalize South-States Flags on cars you see often.