Wandering the information superhighway, he came upon the last refuge of civilization, PoFo, the only forum on the internet ...
Adrien wrote:I love the cartoons you post Boon, you're certainly the most European American we have here.
And why cant one be socialist and yet not nationalist?
And am I really blatently socialist? I have in the past said that private industry has a place in society ... would that be for or against socialism?
And European is hardly a race anymore
no more a race then American is.
Its true that my political cartoons that I have posted have been very critical of the Bush administration and at times capitalism but ... that doesnt make me socialist.
Actually yes I do too, I've just gotten over my hang-over in time to go down the pub.
There is no reason ,except you always class yourself as 'nationalist' which has many right wing connotations.
It depends what branch of socialism you are talking about. Most of the 'mainstream' branches of socialism would whole-heartedly agree with you.
Shit? It isn't, what did I miss?
American was never really a race. Just ask Ixabert!
FFS! Its Thursday man! Dont you work?
But my nation comes first, before my political or economic beliefs ... wouldnt that be nationalist? Perhaps patriotic is better ... but ... nationalist always seems to get under the skin of leftists
Oh ... ok. Well ... I am not all that revolutionary ... I would rather live happily then die angry.
I dont think of European as a race just as I dont think of Asian as a race. As for European ... I thought it was broken down into British, German, French, etc ... not 'European' ...
Why should Boon artificially label himself as "socialist"?
I think it's better when capitalism-critical people who aren't socialists don't call themselves as such.
I'd consider Boon as somesort of democrat (not necessarily in the US sense, but in the more general sense). A democrat is someone who advocates more public control over the capitalist mode of production, but who doesn't necessarily advocate its abolishment.
TROI wrote:Why should he artificially label himself as nationalist?
Fine then, alternatively social-democrat, although I believe the western meaning of the word 'scoailist' can differ from the eastern definition.
A 'democrat' can be anyone who favours the present form of borgeois parliamentarianism (in it's western application anyway).
But a Social-democrat (See Kautsky and present 'left-wing' leaders in Europe) does advocate limited control of capitalist means of production.
It's not about "Western" and "Eastern" definitions, but bourgeois and scientific definitions. Someone who doesn't advocate the replacement of the capitalist mode of production by the socialist mode of production isn't a socialist.
Well let's label him a social-democrat (in the modern, non-Marxist meaning of the term).
TROI wrote:Well let's label him a social-democrat (in the modern, non-Marxist meaning of the term).
Agreed, you get the hot coals and I'll get the brading iron
Agreed, you get the hot coals and I'll get the brading iron
Boon's a warrior you know. But what the hell, we can always try.
If he isn't, he shouldn't.
For soeone who likes to annoy leftists why do you endorse left-wing candidates in your nation?
It's just imbeciles who keep up the sham of nationalism in Europe at the moment.
Well let's label him a social-democrat
It is still the mainstream opinion of mainstream […]
...You tell me your opinion on why that is happen[…]