noemon wrote:No mate, US prosecutors do not set any standards in this community.
I'm not sure what you are trying to say. This community is just a PHP bulletin board. It has no legal authority like the US Department of Justice. So if someone says they can blow a Congressman's head off from a mile away and the DoJ does nothing about it, I frankly don't know what it is that you think you can do about it.
noemon wrote:Trump's buddy Acosta letting Epstein off for confirmed pedophilia does not mean that should be the new normal for us in here.
noemon wrote:If you are going to condemn these intimidation tactics against political opponents, then I expect your condemnation for all the racist intimidation brought upon these 4 Congresswomen.
I don't consider Trump's tweet the slightest bit intimidating. Intimating that you could shoot someone's head off their shoulders from a mile away and that you are coming to get them is a little different than saying before trying to tell the US how it is to be run to go back to your place of origin an fix things, and then come and show us how it is done. The DoJ isn't treating either of them as criminal. I suppose you could get yourself on a plane and come over hear and try to do something yourself. I wouldn't get your hopes up though.
noemon wrote:a) I read the article you provided and did not read Omar's comments doing what you accuse her of doing. Rahm Emmanuel(not Ilhan Omar) writes: questioning the “allegiance” of supporters of Israel. The first observation here is where did she question that allegiance? He does not say. Second, "supporters of Israel" may or not be Jews and if US politicians have placed Israeli interests above US interests then certainly American politicians should be able to say that without fear or prejudice.
Right. American politicians are free to criticize anything they like, and to be criticized by others for doing it as well.
noemon wrote:Are you arguing that if American politicians say that someone(in the US) is putting Islam(.ie Saudi) above the US, then that someone is being racist?
I don't understand the question. Islam is not a race.
noemon wrote:b) The issue here is that you are arguing/propagating that she is being racist for far less than what Trump said while at the same time arguing that what Trump said is not racist at all.
I'm pointing out that many condemned her for her statements, and Trump was just bringing that to light.
noemon wrote:To make matters worse you have made far worse statements about Jews.
I've routinely criticized left-of-center Jews in American politics. I would happily say the same again, for example, with respect to the attack on Brett Kavanaugh. I would not, however, say that this is behavior emblematic of all American Jews, all Jews, etc. because it is not. Scenarios like the Kavanaugh situation does involve a noticeable number of left-of-center Jewish-American politicos, however. I have also noted before that it not exclusively left-of-center Jews, but rather that it does appear to be significant. For example, the attack on Brett Kavanaugh involved people like Dianne Feinstein, Paige Herwig (who was also involved in the talking points in the tarmac meeting between Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch days before Comey in an [u]ultra vires[/i] act effectively exonerated Hillary Clinton), Michael Bromwich, Debra Katz, Richard Blumenthal, Julie Swetnick, etc. That is just an observation. I also find it interesting that you are digging up my posts from 4 years ago.
noemon wrote:c) You are talking to me as if it matters to me whether that guy served under Obama. You should know already that I do not care at all about Democrats and Republicans.
You do seem to cue in on the background of who is making a statement.
noemon wrote:One does not need to attack all Black people to be a racist, attacking a few of them on the basis of race, descent, ethnic origin still makes that person racist.
Perhaps. However, Trump was commenting on their critique of the United States, not on the color of their skin.
noemon wrote:He attacked those that disagree with him and he did on the basis of their ethnic-origins, that makes his attack racist.
He didn't say that their views were of no value, because they came from somewhere else.
noemon wrote:And when people do outlandish things, intelligent people are supposed to rein on them.
Why is that? What does intelligence have to do with it? Intelligent people do outlandish things too.
noemon wrote:You and yours seem particularly vocal when some liberals or sjw says something outlandish but at the same time very fragile and defensive if some republican says something racist.
I don't think Trump's comment was racist. In view of what the "squad" has been saying about people, I think it was pretty tame. My interpretation of it was it was intended to trigger people like you, and Trump met his mark. I also think both the "squad" and Trump should be able to say what they want, and the rest of us should be able to offer our own critiques of what they said and why we think they said it. I don't think we all have to agree. That's the whole point of debate.