colliric wrote:Nope, your being a drama queen. These people don't need to be "imprisoned in their homes" for a virus they will most likely never ever be exposed to under the correct lockdown eradication strategy.
If they are in lockdown, then yes, they are basically imprisoned in their homes.
They just be slightly inconvenienced for a few weeks occasionally along with the rest of us. At least until the virus is gone from our shores.
No. If there is enough risk of transmission to make lockdowns necessary, then there is enough risk that they need to stay isolated.
You realise 100% Vaccination is pure utter lunatic fantasy right?
Of course. This is why 85% is what I argued, since that is what the science says.
Scott Morrison knows that, so why don't you? And he also knows Vaccinated people act as carriers so those compromised immune systems people are IN MORE DANGER if we open up without eradicating the virus first.
People who are vaccinated are less likely to infect others than the unvaccinated. So even if it is true that vaccinated people can act as carriers, it is also true that unvaccinated people are even more likely to be carriers. So if we are talking about which group puts immune compromised people IN MORE DANGER, as you put it, it is the unvaccinated. And because of their selfishness, people who have compromised immune systems are basically imprisoned in their home.
specifically addressed that fact yesterday saying lockdowns will continue even with high vaccination rates. He's specifically told the Australian population that Vaccine will help stop transmission, but we're not opening up until it's been eradicated from our shores.
https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-w ... -c-3542010
The Grattan institute is hoping for 80-85% and proposes a weekly post Melbourne Cup free Tattslotto entry as a bribe to help encourage vaccinations(because that would be legal and do-able,
That corroborates my claims.
Transmission is reduced with vaccination.
85% or so is required.
unlike your draconian force people to be vaccinated in order to set foot in a supermarket bullshit!).
But I doubt that will happen. Victorians specifically trashed the QR code check-in crap(mandatory in theory only! Most only do it if asked), the Covid-safe app(Battery draining apps get uninstalled!) and ain't gonna treat no Vaccine passports with any respect either.
The fact that people act in a selfish manner is not an argument for said behaviour.