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It would be so nice if life was more like movies in this regard, wouldn't it? So for instance Obama wouldn't have to order to design and execute a military operation to kick ISIS out of its "capital" Mosul that leaves it like:

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Pants-of-dog wrote:So bombing Hamas’s buildings is a viable method of removing Hamas from power? Yes?


It is a necessary condition given its war strategy, yes. Although that's not sufficient, ultimately the PA will have to return to rule and rebuild Gaza.
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KurtFF8 wrote:The page literally claims it's the highest ratio of any conflict in the 21st century @wat0n . The fact that this makes your previous comment look even worse is on you, not the facts.

And every other study, estimate, count (with of course the sole exception of unsubstantiated claims by the very regime doing the killing) has also claimed an outrageous civilian death count.

You of course have elsewhere justified these deaths by simply blaming Hamas, or I believe also pointing to urban warfare and casualties as just being a part of it. Another goalpost move by you as usual.


The high number of casualties is a direct result of the Hamas strategy of surrounding themselves with civilians.
This strategy has worked for many years but this is no longer the case. The atrocities committed on October 7 2023 were such that the Israelis had no option but to restore their deterrent with an iron fist. That includes turning Gaza into a giant heap of rubble. This is not 1943 but 2024. The price for killing Jews is very high these days.

Opinions may vary.
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wat0n wrote:It would be so nice if life was more like movies in this regard, wouldn't it? So for instance Obama wouldn't have to order to design and execute a military operation to kick ISIS out of its "capital" Mosul that leaves it like:


Yeah it's not great when my president does it either. I really wish both my president and Israel stopped bombing children, because I don't like it.

But honor, dignity, and duty demand that we bomb schools. This is what adults do, you can't question it.

I think one way to accomplish this would be to stop running Palestine like an open air prison surrounded with sentry guns and prison gates that control the movement of Palestinians. And also not having a goal of Israel being a pure ethnostate. Establishing an ethnostate forces you to jump through certain hoops, which include killing children.

Ter wrote:The high number of casualties is a direct result of the Hamas strategy of surrounding themselves with civilians.


When you put an entire population in an open air prison, anyone who opposes said imprisonment is going to be surrounded by civilians. And are they really civilians? They don't have a state, we can say they don't really matter because they don't deserve to have a state. In fact, the idea of these people governing themselves is laughable.

Israelis love killing Palestinians. They just rioted over the idea of their military not being allowed to rape Palestinian prisoners, because they consider Palestinians less than human and nothing but filth to be wiped out.

Israelis have learned nothing from the Holocaust. They invoke the Holocaust, but only that it will never happen to them again. Palestinians? Lmao dropping a 2,000 pound bomb on an apartment building because one guy might be holding a rifle there.
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Look at these brave IDF soldiers, all of them 22 year old Corporals because of rank bloat, celebrating their victory over their enemies by posing with their weapons that they have taken as trophies in a glorious war against the foul terrorists.

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Look at the heroic Israelis, joking about how they killed old people and stole their canes for a funny photo. What a heroic nation, lets give them another twenty billion dollars to defend themselves.
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SpecialOlympian wrote:Yeah it's not great when my president does it either. I really wish both my president and Israel stopped bombing children, because I don't like it.

But honor, dignity, and duty demand that we bomb schools. This is what adults do, you can't question it.

I think one way to accomplish this would be to stop running Palestine like an open air prison surrounded with sentry guns and prison gates that control the movement of Palestinians. And also not having a goal of Israel being a pure ethnostate. Establishing an ethnostate forces you to jump through certain hoops, which include killing children.


Weird ass defense to letting ISIS keep committing genocide against Yazidis, and committing terrorist attacks in Europe, Asia and Africa.

Maybe you could start treating islamists like adults with agency for once instead of doing your best to defend them like the degenerate leftist mass murder lover you are?

SpecialOlympian wrote:When you put an entire population in an open air prison, anyone who opposes said imprisonment is going to be surrounded by civilians. And are they really civilians? They don't have a state, we can say they don't really matter because they don't deserve to have a state. In fact, the idea of these people governing themselves is laughable.

Israelis love killing Palestinians. They just rioted over the idea of their military not being allowed to rape Palestinian prisoners, because they consider Palestinians less than human and nothing but filth to be wiped out.

Israelis have learned nothing from the Holocaust. They invoke the Holocaust, but only that it will never happen to them again. Palestinians? Lmao dropping a 2,000 pound bomb on an apartment building because one guy might be holding a rifle there.


One thing Israelis learned is that leftists like yourself won't be saving anyone unless your own interests are at risk, exactly like it happened with American communists in WWII and their alignment with domestic Nazis until Hitler invaded the USSR.
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Israel killed most of the hostages from the date you're trying to make important. Didn't we just establish that Israel is heroic and cool for killing hostages? They love shooting through children?

She's so lucky. She's a star. Because she cries, cries, cries with her lonely heart. Thinking: Bomb Palestine. Everythings alright.

Isn't the indiscriminate bombing of civilians lovely? Why are there so many Palestinian hospitals (there are none, because the IDF targets them and they are monsters)?
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If bombing all the food production and hospitals and most of the schools and homes is necessary for removing Hamas from power, why is is so ineffective?

It is obviously ineffective since the IDF has to keep doing it.

Why are we supposed to believe that ineffective tactics are necessary?
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I genuinely can not fathom how hateful and cruel you have to be to pose with fucking canes as some sort of social media clickbait. The IDF is incredibly monstrous. They're so filled with hatred of Palestinians that they think it's funny to pose with canes of old people they have murdered.

Just fucking inconceivable how twisted and warped the Israeli culture is that they thought this was worth doing and sharing. We have freaks in this thread who say, unironically, "Yeah sometimes you have to drop a bomb on a school and kill 200 children to kill one Hamaas bureaucrat, Hamas are the bad guys. They're so evil they make Israelis drop bombs on children."

Fucking freaks.
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It seems @SpecialOlympian is having some major mental breakdown over his Hamas buddies getting the ISIS treatment. I guess it can't be helped when you're a mass murder supporting leftist degenerate.

Pants-of-dog wrote:If bombing all the food production and hospitals and most of the schools and homes is necessary for removing Hamas from power, why is is so ineffective?

It is obviously ineffective since the IDF has to keep doing it.

Why are we supposed to believe that ineffective tactics are necessary?


Who says it's ineffective? Hamas' ability to launch attacks into Israel has clearly been eroded, this by itself is a major goal of the war.
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