[Hakeer]

Harris is a lawyer and former prosecutor. She is also about 30 years younger than Trump, and she has a fully functioning brain. Trump hinted last night that he may not agree to debate her. Anybody surprised?

[Rancid]

Harris is a lawyer and former prosecutor. She is also about 30 years younger than Trump, and she has a fully functioning brain. Trump hinted last night that he may not agree to debate her. Anybody surprised?

Not surprised.

What I am surprised with is how now one is asking the older candidate in American history to step down. Especially due to his cognative decline (see all his talks over the last 4 years. Weirder shit than Biden).

Also, don't forget, he's also a rapist and business fraud.

But he's better for the working class...

[Hakeer]

I think he will pull out of the September debate, if he’s still slightly ahead of her at that time in swing states. He shouldn’t risk a meltdown debate that late in the campaign.

Of course, that decision would allow the Harris campaign to portray him as a senile old guy too cowardly to debate with her.

It will be interesting to follow, either way.

[JohnRawls]

Is it too early to make old man needs to take his medicine jokes at Trump? Anyone will look young compared to Trump now.

[Istanbuller]

Republicans did not joke about Biden's cognitive issues. They just told what they see. But Democrats refused accepting what they see until they saw Biden's disastrous debate performance.

But that is the general issue with leftists. They refuse accepting realities, instead they try to create alternate realities based on lies. This is also apparent on comments here. Why would joke about Trump about cognitive issues while he appear not having any issue at all?

[annatar1914]

Let's not fool ourselves. Trump will win, and it's because not only is he an Israel firster, but his vice presidential pick is even more so, and establishment GOP despite the faux Hillbilly roots schtick.

Why? Because Israel is in serious trouble, and Iran will have the bomb soon. They'll need a war president to save Israel and deal with the Middle East and neither Biden nor Harris are it.

That will be the reason and that'll be the focus. Israel.

[Hakeer]

Funny you say that at a time that we have Democrats even on this board who are furious with Biden for continuing to supply military weapons to Israel to slaughter 40,000 people in Gaza. AIPAC donates more money to the Democrats than any other PAC. Besides, the Democrats can’t afford to lose the Jewish voters — 68% voted for Biden.

[Rancid]

With respect to Obama not endorsing Harris (yet).

Those of you seeing this as some sort of issue probably haven't worked in a large corporate setting where politics like this plays out. Basically, Obama is like a high level big time board member that has also been a CEO. His endorsement carries the most weight of any single person in the room. It is a smart political move to hold back for a little while, allow the dust to settle, and when the winner for the candidacy emerges, then he drops his (big) endorsement on them and makes a giant splash, and make the great unity speech.

What would be worse is, he puts down an endorsement on someone early one, then in the end, that person isn't selected. This effectively throws away the splash his initial endorsement made. In short, he doesn't want to throw away the big bang his endorsement would make. He can also behind the doors influence this process by holding back an endorsement. It doesn't mean he's by default, against Harris.

It's something like that.

Also, Harris backing is pouring in, including from Unions. Reminder, Trump is not a working class advocate. You are so lost if you really think this. Not that the dems are all about the working class, but at this point in time, they are doing more for Unions (see auto strike, and others) than Trump and Republicans.

If you think that speech at the RNC convention was an endorsement of Trump, you are basically a fucking moron. Go back and watch it.

[wat0n]

If they're gonna do that, they better make sure that it's not just Barack but also Michelle Obama who endorse her.

[Rancid]

If they're gonna do that, they better make sure that it's not just Barack but also Michelle Obama who endorse her.

In short, Democrats better not fuck this up (they probably will). Too much is at stake with these dipshit MAGAs.

I don't have much faith in that party.

Why aren't we talking about the oldest candidate in history not dropping out of the race though?

[wat0n]

Oh I'm sure it will happen, @Rancid. And yes, the Dems have been completely amateurish. If Biden was to drop out, he should have announced it in 2022 or 2023 at the latest.

[Hakeer]

My wife has FTD (middle stage). Her sister has Alzheimer’s , and her mother died from it. I can tell you that it develops at different rates in different individuals. My wife showed symptoms in 2020 (about what Biden displayed in the debate). But if you met her a year earlier, you would not have predicted. It accelerated when she got Covid, and I suspect that might have happened with Biden.

[Rancid]

Yup, now the spotlight will switch to Trump's age and own gaffes. However, I don't know if they will be perceived as being as evident/serious as Biden's.

It won't switch to him. There's been a continual double standard at play. Trump has been saying some wild shit at his rallies that last 4-ish years. No one has batted an eye. No one cared when a mixed up Halay and Pelosi like crazy at one rally. No one gave a shit about his weird sharks and boat batteries nonsense. No one gave a shit when a said the wrong state he was in (more than once).

It's not going to switch to him. He has the magic pass.

[annatar1914]

Funny you say that at a time that we have Democrats even on this board who are furious with Biden for continuing to supply military weapons to Israel to slaughter 40,000 people in Gaza. AIPAC donates more money to the Democrats than any other PAC. Besides, the Democrats can’t afford to lose the Jewish voters — 68% voted for Biden.

@Hakeer :

They lost the Jewish voters. At the very least it'll make the split between the more Liberal versus the more Zionist as obvious to anyone.

But more importantly, there's the Muslim and pro-palestinian vote to consider for the future of the Democratic Party. Whites, Older People, Conservatives, Zionists and Men will cluster more to the GOP. Non-whites, Muslims, Younger People, Liberals, and anti Zionists will gravitate more to the Democratic Party. And the Young are the future.

[Hakeer]

@Hakeer :

They lost the Jewish voters. At the very least it'll make the split between the more Liberal versus the more Zionist as obvious to anyone.

But more importantly, there's the Muslim and pro-palestinian vote to consider for the future of the Democratic Party. Whites, Older People, Conservatives, Zionists and Men will cluster more to the GOP. Non-whites, Muslims, Younger People, Liberals, and anti Zionists will gravitate more to the Democratic Party. And the Young are the future.

Jews voted 67% Democrat in the 2022 midterm. The way Biden has been supporting Israel with military weapons, Harris will get the Jew vote. The Democrats give lip-service to “two-state solution”, oppose West Bank settlements, massacres in Gaza, blah, blah, blah, but keep the military shipments going no matter what Israel does. Biden did it. Obama did it. Harris will do it. As long as that continues, most Jews will give their votes to Democrats and AIPAC the money.

You’re right that Zionists will vote Republican, thinking Republicans will give them less opposition to a “one-state solution” achieved by force, when necessary.

[wat0n]

@Hakeer :

They lost the Jewish voters. At the very least it'll make the split between the more Liberal versus the more Zionist as obvious to anyone.

But more importantly, there's the Muslim and pro-palestinian vote to consider for the future of the Democratic Party. Whites, Older People, Conservatives, Zionists and Men will cluster more to the GOP. Non-whites, Muslims, Younger People, Liberals, and anti Zionists will gravitate more to the Democratic Party. And the Young are the future.

The young were also the future in the 1960s. How has the 1960s youth voted from the 1980s onwards?

[Hakeer]

The young were also the future in the 1960s. How has the 1960s youth voted from the 1980s onwards?

The Jew youth of the 1960’s have continued to vote Democratic from then to today. The fact is, you have to go back to 1920 to find a Republican who got the majority Jew vote in a presidential election. If you think that’s changing in 2024, you’re dreaming.

[Rancid]

Is it too early to make old man needs to take his medicine jokes at Trump? Anyone will look young compared to Trump now.

It's not.

Trump needs to drop out because he's so fucking old. Switching names. Forgetting where he is. Talking about boats and batteries and sharks. He's gone, his mind is gone, he needs to go.

Not to mention he's a business fraud, a tax fraud, a rapist, and a traitor. That is what some pofoers are openly defending.

[wat0n]

The Jew youth of the 1960’s have continued to vote Democratic from then to today. The fact is, you have to go back to 1920 to find a Republican who got the majority Jew vote in a presidential election. If you think that’s changing in 2024, you’re dreaming.

That can always change, and it will depend a lot on how both parties treat Jewish voters.

[JohnRawls]

It's not.

Trump needs to drop out because he's so fucking old. Switching names. Forgetting where he is. Talking about boats and batteries and sharks. He's gone, his mind is gone, he needs to go.

Not to mention he's a business fraud, a tax fraud, a rapist, and a traitor. That is what some pofoers are openly defending.

Trump is not gonna debate with Harris. She will eat him alive obviously as a debater. Chicken pook pook pook...