[wat0n]

Harvard stood by her despite her Congressional testimony in which she refuses to say if calling for the genocide of Jews violates Harvard's Code of Conduct, that is unquestionably true.

It is also unquestionably true Harvard stood by her even after donors like Ackman publicly said an apology is not enough.

The rest is @Pants-of-dog desperate to defend his conspiracy theories on donors, which curiously only involve Jewish donors.

[Pants-of-dog]

The argument is whether or not donors have the ability to force universities to limit free speech through withholding funding.

Whether or not Harvard can be portrayed as standing by her is irrelevant to that argument. It is logically possible for Harvard to pay lip service to supporting her while also making it illegal to say “from the river to the sea” after Blavatnik withholds millions.

[wat0n]

Donors haven't shown to have that ability when Harvard's Board sets out to stand by the President those same donors want fired. The rest is just speculation.

Also, Harvard cannot make something "illegal".

[Pants-of-dog]

We are left to believe it a giant coincidence that Harvard censors protests shortly after a major donor withholds millions as a response to perceived antisemitism.

[wat0n]

Well, given plagiarism experts went to CNN to say Harvard's own President had plagiarized part of her research it is definitely more likely this brought her down.

Just like it brought down other university Presidents despite being white males.

[Pants-of-dog]

Ignoring incredibly implausible coincidences while simultaneously believing that other incredibly implausible coincidences are causative is not a plausible argument.

[wat0n]

It is not a coincidence, it's just a better explanation. One that has precedent in other schools.

Like, a President even had to quit after plagiarizing a commencement speech (not his research), and you think Harvard wouldn't fire its own President after doing something worse?

[Pants-of-dog]

How is a string of implausible coincidences more likely than Harvard caving to multimillion dollar revenue loss?

[wat0n]

It is not a "string of implausible coincidences" to point out Gay was treated like other university Presidents who committed research misconduct were.

[Pants-of-dog]

There has been no reasoning presented as to why accusations (but no findings) of plagiarism are more reasonable than the clear and evidenced influence on campus debate by wealthy donors.

In the case of Ackman in particular, we are supposed to believe that his (openly hypocritical) accusations were significant while his open and verified use of wealth to influence debate was not significant.

[wat0n]

The experts interviewed by CNN and who reviewed the evidence (which is publicly available) found Claudine Gay committed plagiarism, and said so on the record. You're just grasping at straws here, @Pants-of-dog

[Unthinking Majority]

We are left to believe it a giant coincidence that Harvard censors protests shortly after a major donor withholds millions as a response to perceived antisemitism.

Nobody at Harvard was censored. Feel free to keep repeating this lie though.

[wat0n]

Oh there has been censorship at Harvard, but of the kind leftists like him support.

[Pants-of-dog]

Nobody at Harvard was censored. Feel free to keep repeating this lie though.

Go and tell a Harvard student to say “from the river to the sea” on campus and see what happens.

They would get punished.

So speech is currently censored in Harvard.

This happened shortly after a man named Blavatnik withheld millions in funding because he thought Harvard was being soft on antisemitism.

There is also the censorship stemming from the new definition of antisemitism being used. So it would be perfectly fine to say “Canada is a settler colonial state” but it would be punishable to say “Israel is a settler colonial state”.

Apparently Israel gets more rights than Canada on US campuses.

[wat0n]

Has anyone at Harvard been punished in any way for chanting the genocidal slogans or claiming Israel is a settler colonial state?

Because I do know a Harvard lecturer who was harassed into quitting her job for saying biological sex is binary.

[Unthinking Majority]

Go and tell a Harvard student to say “from the river to the sea” on campus and see what happens.

They would get punished.

So speech is currently censored in Harvard.

Can you provide a link about this?

[Pants-of-dog]

Ms. Gay openly and specifically condemned that phrase:

https://www.harvard.edu/president/news- ... isemitism/

[wat0n]

So did anyone get punished in Harvard for using it?

I will remind you Carole Hooven (a former senior lecturer at Harvard) was harassed into quitting her job for saying biological sex is binary on Fox News, @Pants-of-dog.

[Unthinking Majority]

Ms. Gay openly and specifically condemned that phrase:

https://www.harvard.edu/president/news- ... isemitism/

Condemning something is much different than rules or punishments made for students who say this phrase.

You claimed students at Harvard would be punished/censored for uttering this phrase. Since you have failed to provide any evidence for this claim we can reject your claim as false.

[Pants-of-dog]

Condemning something is much different than rules or punishments made for students who say this phrase.

You claimed students at Harvard would be punished/censored for uttering this phrase. Since you have failed to provide any evidence for this claim we can reject your claim as false.

Sure.

What about the antisemitism laws passed by the US federal government?

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-con ... n%20campus.