[Rich]

So I want to congratulate Netanyahu on the assassination of Ismail Haniyeh. He has struck a great blow of revenge on behalf of the Jewish Israeli volk. This wouldn't have happened if Biden /Harris and Starmer had got their way and Netanyahu had been replaced by a weaker leader. I suspect most Israelis will see this as a just action.

Edit so it appears they've got Hamas military chief Mohammed Deif as well.

This is certainly a major blow against Hamas. I think this actually paves the way for possible peace deal. With this Israel can achieve peace with honour.

[ingliz]

@Rich

I wish to congratulate Netanyahu on signing his death warrant and that of the Israeli state. He has started a war he cannot win.

[Rich]

I wish to congratulate Netanyahu on signing his death warrant and that of the Israeli state. He has started a war he cannot win.

I've edited the OP with the latest info. I've been sceptical of Israel destroying Hamas, but this could pave the way for negotiated deal that would be acceptable to the Israeli public. Strong leaders like Netanyahu and Trump are actually better at getting their enemies to make concessions than weak leaders like Biden and Harris.

[Rugoz]

Iran really sucks at protecting important people.

I've edited the OP with the latest info. I've been sceptical of Israel destroying Hamas, but this could pave the way for negotiated deal that would be acceptable to the Israeli public. Strong leaders like Netanyahu and Trump are actually better at getting their enemies to make concessions than weak leaders like Biden and Harris.

AFAIK this guy was one of the more moderates of the Hamas leadership. How does killing him pave the way to a negotiated deal?

[Rich]

Iran really sucks at protecting important people.

Te Iranian government allows fatwas to be issued against western and Israeli citizens. These are acts of war. We are therefore perfectly entitled to assassinate our enemies inside Iran when ever we feel like it.

AFAIK this guy was one of the more moderates of the Hamas leadership. How does killing him pave the way to a negotiated deal?

The response of Liberals inside Israel and without has been an absolute disgrace. They have sought to deny Netanyahu a victory and use Hamas's attack to unseat him from power. In such a situation the nation and the government of the nation can not be separated. If the Liberals got their way and used 10/7 to get rid of Netanyahu, that would be a great victory for Hamas.

The current government and Israel need to be seen to inflict a very heavy price on Hamas. Killing the Hamas's top leadership is the best way to do this. Once Israel has achieved suitable vengeance then it becomes politically possible for Israel's government to compromise and negotiate a peace deal with Hamas, that accepts the reality that Hamas's military can almost certainly not be eradicated in Gaza.

[wat0n]

Well, there has been pretty much no response from Hamas - it seems Iran and Hezbollah will have to do that for them. It is possible to topple them in Gaza, although not if Netanyahu does not want to commit to two states and make it politically possible for an international force to be sent in (the UAE has already offered troops for the effort).

[JohnRawls]

I've edited the OP with the latest info. I've been sceptical of Israel destroying Hamas, but this could pave the way for negotiated deal that would be acceptable to the Israeli public. Strong leaders like Netanyahu and Trump are actually better at getting their enemies to make concessions than weak leaders like Biden and Harris.

What is the point? In couple of years HAMAS 2.0 will rise in HAMASes place because of the same reasons as before. What is the political solution for this? Can you give an answer to that?

[Istanbuller]

It is getting very dangerous in the Middle East. Netanyahu tries to escape prosecution by trying to start a regional or big war.

[JohnRawls]

It is getting very dangerous in the Middle East. Netanyahu tries to escape prosecution by trying to start a regional or big war.

War is not possible, land border between Turkey and Israel or Iran and Israel doesn't exist. Proxies of any sort are not close enough and any Naval campaign is gonna fail because Israel has by far the strongest airforce than both Iran and Turkey combined so the ships will be destroyed.

[Istanbuller]

War is not possible, land border between Turkey and Israel or Iran and Israel doesn't exist. Proxies of any sort are not close enough and any Naval campaign is gonna fail because Israel has by far the strongest airforce than both Iran and Turkey combined so the ships will be destroyed.

I didn't say anything about Turkey and Iran's involvement. Why do you always claim things people don't actually say?

[JohnRawls]

I didn't say anything about Turkey and Iran's involvement. Why do you always claim things people don't actually say?

Didn't Erdogan threaten war and Iran Ayatollah threaten retaliation?

[Istanbuller]

Didn't Erdogan threaten war and Iran Ayatollah threaten retaliation?

What does this have to do with what i wrote?

[JohnRawls]

What does this have to do with what i wrote?

Istanbuller wrote:
It is getting very dangerous in the Middle East. Netanyahu tries to escape prosecution by trying to start a regional or big war.

[Istanbuller]

Istanbuller wrote:
It is getting very dangerous in the Middle East. Netanyahu tries to escape prosecution by trying to start a regional or big war.

Did you see anything related to Iran or Turkey in that post? Stay on the topic please.

[JohnRawls]

Did you see anything related to Iran or Turkey in that post? Stay on the topic please.

So related to what it is if Iran is threatening retaliation and Erdogan just said that there will be war with Israel?

[Istanbuller]

So related to what it is if Iran is threatening retaliation and Erdogan just said that there will be war with Israel?

I asked you you simple question. I wrote something about the topic and you replied my post with going off topic or unrelated topic. What does this topic have to do with Erdoğan, Turkey? The topic is about Hamas leader's killing by Natenyahu government of Israel.

Do you think i am a representative or Turkish state? Why do you always try to relate things i wrote to Turkey?

I noticed that you did this so frequently. You suddenly started talking about Russia-Ukraine war and Putin in the thread about Kamala Harris's popularity.

[JohnRawls]

I asked you you simple question. I wrote something about the topic and you replied my post with going off topic or unrelated topic. What does this topic have to do with Erdoğan, Turkey? The topic is about Hamas leader's killing by Natenyahu government of Israel.

Do you think i am a representative or Turkish state? Why do you always try to relate things i wrote to Turkey?

I noticed that you did this so frequently. You suddenly started talking about Russia-Ukraine war and Putin in the thread about Kamala Harris's popularity.

Because they are related things. You said Israel wants to go to war and literally the same day Turkey and then Iran a bit later announced those news. Why is it so far fetched for me to think that they are not related? What war did you mention then besides the ones ongoing?

You specifically wrote regional or big war also which kinda implies either Iran or Turkey for BIG.

[Istanbuller]

Because they are related things. You said Israel wants to go to war and literally the same day Turkey and then Iran a bit later announced those news. Why is it so far fetched for me to think that they are not related? What war did you mention then besides the ones ongoing?

You specifically wrote regional or big war also which kinda implies either Iran or Turkey for BIG.

I didn't wrote anything about going war with Turkey and Iran or Erdoğan. Why are you still claiming things that i never wrote?

Netanyahu tries to escape prosecution by trying to start a regional or big war.

Are you not capable of understanding the main idea in this sentence? Is there anything about Israel goes war with Turkey and Iran in my sentence above?

[starman2003]

What is the point? In couple of years HAMAS 2.0 will rise in HAMASes place because of the same reasons as before. What is the political solution for this? Can you give an answer to that?

Long before October 7 someone said "If killing terrorists were the best way to stop terrorism, Israel would be the safest country in the world--it isn't." Over the years the Israelis knocked off many, many PLO and Hamas figures, Iranian nuclear scientists and IRGC people. The targeted groups simply replaced them, and kept going. Did previous assassinations, and poundings of gaza, prevent 10/7? Has Iran's nuclear program been stopped?

[Rich]

What is the point? In couple of years HAMAS 2.0 will rise in HAMASes place because of the same reasons as before. What is the political solution for this? Can you give an answer to that?

The 3 existing states solution. Gaza goes back to Egypt and most of the West Bank goes back to Jordan. Sunni Arab Muslims will be ruled by Sunni Arab Muslims. There will never be a genuinely independent (of Israel) Palestine state. Any Palestinian state will just be glorified bantustans. Any government of such a so called state will either try to gain land from Israel or will be seen as a collaborator Vichy type government, that will provoke resistance.

As to a limited political solution for Netanyahu, he's picking up in the polls. A war with Hezbollah and maybe Iran, could allow him to cut a deal with Hamas for hostages, accepting that Hamas can not actually be restored.