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ingliz wrote:Poor @Rich is not getting enough so he whines about a piddling minority (5.57%) of the other in society.

Modern Western youth, a blizzard of 'snowflakes' drowning in self-pity. It's no wonder women are not falling at your feet.

It's not a good look.

:lol:

What a pathetic individual you are making such a pathetic response. Pathetic leftie cretinism that we see over and over again. This is leftie logic, someone says I observe rising economic inequality therefore they must be poor and an economic failure, driven by narcissistic self entitlement.

It speaks to the pathetic lack of self awareness of so many lefties that it never crosses their minds that just because someone observes a phenomenona that might be considered a bit unfair, that they might not be conscious of being a benefactor of such a phenomena.
#15322294
ingliz wrote:The numbers are piddling.

Unless you worked at Charlie Hebdo.
I'd be more worried about the Christians trying to bring about the end of the world for religious reasons.

That is certainly cause for concern, but Muslims have their own chiliastic yearning, and more of them take it seriously.
#15322321
Truth To Power wrote:Do you understand that there is a difference in moral responsibility for your misfortune between being on a bus that goes over a cliff and falling from a cliff that you chose to climb?


Buses don't purposely drive over cliffs? And, typically, you don't climb a cliff to get access to a bus?

Please torture your metaphors more to place the blame on women for being sexually assaulted by rich men like Donald Trump and Andrew Tate.

This is why you are a fucking creep. You assume sexual predators like Andrew Tate are making fair arguments to women, and only the dumbest women will believe them. When, in reality, people like Tate are predators who consistently prey on anyone they can find as a full time job. There are multiple articles out there about how Tate was hitting up middle schoolers and high schoolers non-stop thrrough various internet messenger services because that was his job: to predate on women.

So here's a non tortured metaphor: Imagine a guy in his early 30's who has been rejected by 900 women on AOL Instant Messenger learning how to coax a 14 year old girl into sending lewd pictures to him. Is it the 14 year old's fault for being naive, or the fully grown man who has done his 10,000 hours to master the craft of abusing women?

And when these immense creeps like Tate who spend all their time lying to women and perfecting their game to figure out how to emotionally abuse someone land a fish, you're the first person to shout, "It's their fault they believed his lies!" instead of looking at the guy who made it his full time job to lie to women. Because you're a fucking stupid, mysoginsitic freak.

It was literally Andrew Tate's job to recruit women in to his camgirl website. HE. BRAGS. ABOUT. THIS! He bragged about it so hard the Romanian government imprisoned him.

I don't expect you to learn anything from what I said because I think you're a fucking idiot, and I have zero respect for you. I think you're retarded.
#15322323
I'm glad I rescued my daughter from a life of prostitution. I don't blame the pimp that got her addicted to heroin, he's just a good businessman. He and I both graduated with MBAs from USC.

He's respesctable. My daughter is a slut.
#15322339
SpecialOlympian wrote:Buses don't purposely drive over cliffs? And, typically, you don't climb a cliff to get access to a bus?

Correct. Not sure where you think you are going with that.
Please torture your metaphors more to place the blame on women for being sexually assaulted by rich men like Donald Trump and Andrew Tate.

They are adults, and they chose to be there.
You assume sexual predators like Andrew Tate are making fair arguments to women, and only the dumbest women will believe them.

No, I assume that adults understand what they are getting into and are responsible for their choices.
There are multiple articles out there about how Tate was hitting up middle schoolers and high schoolers non-stop thrrough various internet messenger services because that was his job: to predate on women.

Exploiting minors is not the same as exploiting adults.
So here's a non tortured metaphor: Imagine a guy in his early 30's who has been rejected by 900 women on AOL Instant Messenger learning how to coax a 14 year old girl into sending lewd pictures to him. Is it the 14 year old's fault for being naive, or the fully grown man who has done his 10,000 hours to master the craft of abusing women?

You don't understand that minors can't give consent, while adults can?
And when these immense creeps like Tate who spend all their time lying to women and perfecting their game to figure out how to emotionally abuse someone land a fish, you're the first person to shout, "It's their fault they believed his lies!" instead of looking at the guy who made it his full time job to lie to women. Because you're a fucking stupid, mysoginsitic freak.

I don't exculpate men who vote for Trump any more than I exculpate women who put out for him. Same with men who buy whatever Tate is selling, and the women who provide it.
It was literally Andrew Tate's job to recruit women in to his camgirl website. HE. BRAGS. ABOUT. THIS! He bragged about it so hard the Romanian government imprisoned him.

Adult women or minors? Can you tell the difference?
#15322356
What’s the difference? You’re going to blame them anyway because you’re a creep who feels the need to shift blame away from predators. Don’t start acting like you care about children.

You’re only making the distinction because you feel it looks better to blame adult victims. Most people don’t worry about apportioning blame in sex crimes, you fucking creep.

Yeah the most important thing in sex trafficking is determining how stupid the victims were. Can we really blame Andrew Tate when his victims were practically begging for it?
#15322361
ingliz wrote:@Rich

Why are you blaming Muslims for your inability to attract women to your bed?


:lol:

:roll: Pathetic, utterly pathetic.

But this is the sort of pathetic response we've come to expect from lefties. Its the same sort of response that we saw with @SpecialOlympian when he kept accusing me of being a flat earther, when he realised he'd been owned in the debate we were having. I guess you could say that the tactic worked in that instance because I can't remember what the original point in question was.

Of course this is not ideal for lefties. The ideal for lefties was the Stalinist Soviet Union. If anyone there made an argument they didn't like they would be shipped off to the Gulag, or just got a bullet in the back of the head. There's a story that someone in the nineteen thirties said he thought the five year plan was good. He was sent to a labour camp for 10 years. Now this might seem a trifle harsh, the person might have genuinely thought the five year plan was good. But we saw after 9/11 why even the faintest possibly of sarcasm must be punished. After 9/11 there was an orgy of the most rabid Islamophillia. The mildest criticism of Islam could get you banned from forums. But the one weak spot was that you could refer to Islam as the Religion of Peace. The one weak spot that we courageous few exploited.

So for the time being lefties don't have the Gulag option. They currently don't control PoFo, so all they can do when they face a difficult argument is to engage in puerile insults.
#15322364
Rich wrote:But this is the sort of pathetic response we've come to expect from lefties. Its the same sort of response that we saw with @SpecialOlympian when he kept accusing me of being a flat earther,


You literally said that you were afraid of "rolling off the Earth" if you wore rollerskates. This was after you talked about, again, your belief that Adolph Hitler is the person who has been most oppressed by liberalism.

You literally said that the third reich was oppressed by liberalism, and that liberalism was more evil than naziism because it had a "natural tendency toward bullying."
#15322367
SpecialOlympian wrote:You literally said that you were afraid of "rolling off the Earth" if you wore rollerskates.

Liar!

I've never made a post about roller skates, let alone saying that that I was afraid of falling off the Earth on them.
#15322372
@Rich

It was an honest-to-goodness question that you have refused to answer - How does a rise from a minuscule minority (2%) in 1950 to what is now a negligible number of Muslims living and working in the EU (6% rounding up) amount to Islamification?

Also, how is this so-called 'Islamification of Western society' linked to your inability to attract women to your bed?


:)
#15322378
SpecialOlympian wrote:What’s the difference?

Refusal to make crucial distinctions is a hallmark of leftist "thought."
You’re going to blame them anyway because you’re a creep who feels the need to shift blame away from predators. Don’t start acting like you care about children.

Unrelated to anything I wrote.
You’re only making the distinction because you feel it looks better to blame adult victims.

Why are you pretending that adults are not responsible for their own voluntarily chosen actions?
Most people don’t worry about apportioning blame in sex crimes, you fucking creep.

No, most people are aware that morality requires responsibility.
Yeah the most important thing in sex trafficking is determining how stupid the victims were.

No, the most important thing is to distinguish between those who consent and those who don't.
Can we really blame Andrew Tate when his victims were practically begging for it?

Read and learn:
#15322379
Rich wrote:It speaks to the pathetic lack of self awareness of so many lefties that it never crosses their minds that just because someone observes a phenomenona that might be considered a bit unfair, that they might not be conscious of being a benefactor of such a phenomena.

I think you mean "beneficiary," and the singular is "phenomenon."
#15322385
ingliz wrote:How does a rise from a minuscule minority (2%) in 1950 to what is now a negligible number of Muslims living and working in the EU (6% rounding up) amount to Islamification?

Read "Prey" by Ayaan Hirsi Ali, which details -- including voluminous statistics -- how Muslim immigrants' neolithic attitudes to women have been rapidly erasing women's rights -- especially the right not to be sexually assaulted in public -- in the EU just since 2000, and you might get a clue.

But probably not.

Maybe you can explain to the victims of the New Year's Eve mass sex assaults in Cologne, or to the thousands of young non-Muslim British girls gang-raped by Muslim immigrant rape clubs -- or better yet, to the staff of Charlie Hebdo -- how Europe's "negligible" Muslim population is not Islamifying their communities.
Also, how is this so-called 'Islamification of Western society' linked to your inability to attract women to your bed?

Why choose deliberately to disgrace yourself?
#15322391
Pants-of-dog wrote:So, Andrew Tate is Muslim?


@Pants-of-dog :

Yes, Andrew Tate is now a Muslim apparently. Just about any group has an asshole in it, but Tate to be fair would not gain any traction were it not for the inevitable reaction to the hysterical, even demoniacal, third wave feminists.
#15322395
Truth To Power wrote:
Read and learn:


You are very immature and sexually inexperienced (and for once, I'm not using that solely as an insult) if you think this supports any of your points.

Women who fantasize about rape are not fantasizing about rape. Men who fantasize about fucking their own mothers (and there are A LOT of those if porn site stats are anything to go by) do not want to fuck their own mothers. The fulfillment of the fantasy and its implied isolation from real-world consequences are themselves parts of the fantasy, implying a level of control over the fantasized situation that cannot possibly exist in reality.

Rape in the real world comes with all kinds of nasty, horrific consequences that rape fantasies conveniently ignore. Things like possibly being murdered, tortured, imprisoned, pregnancy, STD's, severe PTSD, phobias surrounding men, destruction and/or severe damage of intimate and/or familial relationships, loss of any sense of safety, trust in other people, in the law, in society, inability to have intercourse, loss of a sense of autonomy, self-esteem... The list is nearly endless.
#15322396
Indeed, the conflate fantasy with a desire for its actualization is a crude error as thinking that because children play cops and robbers as part of pretend play they would be fine with the experience of actual imprisonment or force required to do so. And many fantasies do reflect desires but aren't to be considered literally but how they meet some unmet emotional need. They function to satisfy in some structural way, and the content of a fantasy just provides the vehicle for doing so.
#15322398
Wellsy wrote:Indeed, the conflate fantasy with a desire for its actualization is a crude error as thinking that because children play cops and robbers as part of pretend play they would be fine with the experience of actual imprisonment or force required to do so. And many fantasies do reflect desires but aren't to be considered literally but how they meet some unmet emotional need. They function to satisfy in some structural way, and the content of a fantasy just provides the vehicle for doing so.


Yes, but it goes deeper than that, and I should have explained it more in my previous post. I mean that even just having such a deviant fantasy is exciting in itself. Being able to be open about it with someone you trust is another part. Acting it out with them is going even further. There are layers and layers and layers to human sexuality.

People who don't communicate with their partners about things like this don't understand how fantasies work their way into sexuality, and walk away with extremely dangerous and stupid opinions when exposed to content like in that reddit thread. They're like children.
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