Unthinking Majority wrote:Western morality used to be governed by Christianity. My grandfather said that religion, for all its faults, kept people from turning into animals. Maybe he had a point.
Education now means "god is dead", the West has rejected religion as moral authority. We now create our own morality. As an overreaction to the repression that Christianity/religion caused, we've doubled down on hedonism, personal liberty, self-absorption, we value self-interest and "doing whatever feels good" over most else. Drugs, sex, careers, travel, fancy cars smartphones and smartwatches...and not having children because kids will take lots of time, money, and energy away from our ability to do or acquire everything just mentioned. "The family" has been devalued, because you have to be responsible for someone else's wants and needs instead of just your own.
I think Islam takes things to the other extreme, total control and repression, also unhealthy. But in 150 years we will see that through all its faults, at least Muslim culture is sustainable.
Young men have been so emasculated and coddled, and deemed so unneeded by both women and society that many of them spend their days in front of screens fulfilling fantasies with video games and porn that they don't feel they can achieve in real life. Only a strong male role model can save them from this fate. But since more boys are now raised by single moms than just about at any other point in human history, and most of their teachers are women too, it means they're fucked, and many of the married dad are also emasculated & submissive, and so the young men have to search out mentors like Jordan Peterson to help give them the direction they never had. And all the feminists and emasculated men try to tear Peterson down because he challenges what they have achieved ideologically.
I generally agree with your point. However, I'm trying to find where all of these coddled emasculated young men are in the real world.
Something I have noticed from this "OMG our boys are being turned into girls" hysteria, especially from Fox News types, is that they work off the assumption that these boys have no brains and can't think for themselves. They assume these boys are a bunch of dumb shits that just accept and take everything they are told as truth. They assume that these boys are easily brainwashed (they're not, they see the nonsense too). This is supremely false. My 10 year old boy and his friends is quick to point out some of the dumb shit he sees and hears at school and outside of school. These boys aren't stupid. As long as we feed their curiosities, and encourage logical/reasonable/critical thinking; they will not become pussies. These boys have a natural tendency to want to compete and do the "traditional" boy things. They aren't fucking morons. We should stop assuming they are this stupid to fall for this shit.
I look at my son, his friends, my younger male cousins, my cousin's kid's who are male, the younger men at work, etc. I don't see any of those stereotypical pussy/spineless boys/men people keep talking about. From those young men I actually know and interact with; They seem to understand what's up, they do see the ridiculousness in some of the wokeness shit. They are not brain washed bags of mush. I met another young man that is a military officer very recently. Dude doesn't seem like a punk weak bitch to me. Dude's a badass as far as I can tell. More bad ass than I could ever be.
From my personal experience of raising a boy. Seeing his friends, and having met numerous young men. I simply do not see this emasculation. Or rather, I just don't see it en masse, like the kind of people who start these threads claim it is. Sure, in my son's class of 15 boys; there's like two kids that would classified as "wimps/weenies/weasels". The rest, do your typical boy shit. Compete hard, fight occasionally, have fun outside. Sure, they like youtube, but that doesn't suck up all their time. They certainly
do not believe everything they see on there, and they are quick to call bullshit on well... bullshit.
We currently have a whole generation of kids that are in the military and working in corporate America that was raised in the era of "participation trophies". Yet, America is still an economic and military super power. I don't buy this thesis at all. I see a lot of great leaders in the making when I look around at all the younger men, and boys I see. Yes, I see a few pussies too, but not to a degree that makes me concerned for the future.
I wonder how many of these people that claim "OMG our boys are being turned to girls" are actually currently raising a boy. I suspect few... Does @Agent Steel steel have a boy he's raising? I'm guessing no.
@noemon has boys that are bit older than my boy. I wonder what his thoughts are on this. Does he see the same that I see?
Anyway, my thesis is, that this "War against masculinity" is completely overblown. Even if it weren't, it's not going to be successful, because
boys aren't stupid.
And yes, they know and laught at participation trophies. They know it's stupid too.
I can think of 11780 reasons Trump shouldn't be president ever again.
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