Sivad wrote:Okay, I'll bite.
First, you haven't addressed the facts I've already presented. What about the political repression? The travel and emigration restriction, the extreme censorship, lack of any meaningful democracy? What can reasonably be inferred about NK society from those facts?
For about the third time, you've presented no facts. The only link you've posted in this thread is a Nation article about some disadvantaged areas in Cuba. That's it.
We can find the same things you're complaining about in any country in the world, this isn't special and doesn't make Cuba or the DPRK "a shithole" just because you think you know everything, even though it's clear you know so little about the very recent history of both of these states, what's imposed on them from the outside/empire, and so, why they are as they are.
Here's a little interview from Eva Bartlett who traveled to North Korea in the last year, talking about her experience there and some of the propaganda about the state.
You posted an Empire Files interview with Tim Chirac so I guess you take him as an authority on NK. He says in that interview "there is no reason to gloss over the nature of the authoritarian state in North Korea because we know that there are many political prisoners." In an interview with Max Kaiser he says "there's no doubt this is very cruel regime the way it treats its own people [...] this is a country that has tens of thousands of people in these prisons." So do you agree with Chirac here?
His name is Tim Shorrock and nobody is claiming either Cuba or the DPRK are utopias or whatever wacky shit that's going through your mind. Yes, shit happens there, the same happens here too, but good shit takes place there too, much better shit than we experience, like how they get homes and healthcare and education and there are none, or if any, very few homeless people walking around. Much better than what we experience in the empire. There are political prisoners here too. There are millions imprisoned in this country, living a modern day slavery.
Watching you bitch about Cuba, with what sounds like a MSM understanding of it, after having posters in this thread who've experienced the island tell you that you're incorrect is some arrogant bullshit. I'm going back to my initial opinion that you're secretly jealous about how Cubans are generally warm and loving. Admit it, it's okay! I feel the same. It's one of a few reasons why I really want to visit the island.
Free Palestine.