- 17 May 2018 19:31
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@Zamuel
No, it isn't jihad. You don't know what jihad is and that is what I am talking about, noir is not using the term jihad properly, he is redefining it. He calls Palestinians jihadists for protesting their own living conditions and thus causing an inconvenience to Israel. Therefore, he is call Palestinians jihadists for being inconvenient.
Zam, you don't know the first thing about Islam. For all intents and purposes you are not qualified to speak about it. I know more about it than you and I'm a former Zoroastrian so I recommend that you don't try to tell me what the definition of jihad is given that you don't know anything about it. You had no idea, prior to me talking to you, that jihad meant "struggle". You don't know anything about Islam so you cannot tell me whether or not it is perverted or not.
The enemy wasn't America. America can't do anything to Iran outside of refuse to contact with them. This was the case for most of modern Iran's history.
You didn't say anything. To be completely honest, I find these protests to be beneficial to Iran given that it will serve as the backdrop for greater reforms. This has nothing to do with a violent overthrow of the current government or whatever you have wet dreams about. A revolution now would only cause a civil war and the destruction of the current democratic institutions which still work in Iran. The goal is to empower these democratic institutions and further decentralize Iran, drawing power away from Tehran and distributing it. A violent overthrow of the current regime is against everyone in Iran's interests, not just the governments. Iranians are aware that the current regime is better than the previous and so many are working within the system to destroy it rather than violently kill it. This method doesn't look good on Western media but it certainly is a more sustainable method of reform than destroying everything and starting from scratch.
Noir hasn't redefined anything … Palestinian protestors are practicing Jihad, as defined by the prophet. They proudly acknowledge this.
No, it isn't jihad. You don't know what jihad is and that is what I am talking about, noir is not using the term jihad properly, he is redefining it. He calls Palestinians jihadists for protesting their own living conditions and thus causing an inconvenience to Israel. Therefore, he is call Palestinians jihadists for being inconvenient.
Your suggestion perverts Islam and dishonors Muslim dead. Even the Israelis don't do that.
Zam, you don't know the first thing about Islam. For all intents and purposes you are not qualified to speak about it. I know more about it than you and I'm a former Zoroastrian so I recommend that you don't try to tell me what the definition of jihad is given that you don't know anything about it. You had no idea, prior to me talking to you, that jihad meant "struggle". You don't know anything about Islam so you cannot tell me whether or not it is perverted or not.
I told you this was coming.
The enemy wasn't America. America can't do anything to Iran outside of refuse to contact with them. This was the case for most of modern Iran's history.
You didn't say anything. To be completely honest, I find these protests to be beneficial to Iran given that it will serve as the backdrop for greater reforms. This has nothing to do with a violent overthrow of the current government or whatever you have wet dreams about. A revolution now would only cause a civil war and the destruction of the current democratic institutions which still work in Iran. The goal is to empower these democratic institutions and further decentralize Iran, drawing power away from Tehran and distributing it. A violent overthrow of the current regime is against everyone in Iran's interests, not just the governments. Iranians are aware that the current regime is better than the previous and so many are working within the system to destroy it rather than violently kill it. This method doesn't look good on Western media but it certainly is a more sustainable method of reform than destroying everything and starting from scratch.