And I would love to know how anyone's "right to life" is threatened by another person buying a gun.
If someone wants to kill someone, the gun is just a symptom of a larger problem that should be addressed.
No it is not a symptom. It is the means to do it infinitely more efficiently than with a club.
And where would someone obtain a "certificate of training"? Will there be a cost for that training? Will the government pay for that training? After all, we're still talking about a Constitutionally protected right.
You have no constitutionally protected right to own a gun without training. The SCOTUS has already decided that with the registration laws. The government has the right to regulate what you might own and the conditions under which you may own it.
A person shouldn't have to pay money to exercise his rights.
Why not? You have to pay money to exercise just about all of your rights. In this case the very act of obtaining a gun requires that you pay money.
Let's start charging libs for exercising their 1st Amendment rights if they post stupid their idiocy on the internet.
That is just about as ignorant a statement as I have ever heard on POFO.
Let's charge someone if they don't want to let the police search their car during a traffic stop. Those are Constitutional rights, too...
No. This is even more ignorant. Two winners in one post. WTG.
When I was a kid in New York, I was in Boy Scouts. During our summer camp at Baiting Hollow Boy Scout Camp (I don't know if it still exists) we received firearms safety training, for both target and skeet shooting, from an NRA certified instructor. They did that for years until some liberal dipshit Congressman from Long Island decided it was too "violent".
And you just decided to make that lie up. Do not play us for fools. Here is a quote from Baiting Hallow Boy Scout Camp's website schedule under special events:
Cub Scout Shooting Sports Day
Fall 2019 dates are SOLD OUT. Please check back in March for spring 2020 dates.
Shotgun Shooting Merit Badge Day
Maybe the "libs" bought all the tickets.
I have no right to drive a car, yet roughly the same amount of people are killed every year by automobiles. Why do we do nothing to address that?
Noting to address that?
You mean like...
"Requiring a license to drive?"
Placing very specific laws about what you can drive, where, how fast, what safety equipment, on what roads, how those roads should be constructed, and by which of dozens of local, state and federal agencies and law enforcement people these rules are enforced?
BigSteve wrote:
Every day, 11 teens die in texting-related auto accidents. Some are driving, some are not. According to the United States Department of Transportation, cell phones are involved in a whopping 1.6 million auto crashes each year, causing half a million injuries and prompting 6,000 deaths annually.
Very good example. (Assuming your statistics are true and not understating the problem.) And that is why in my bright red state, for example, one has to be training how to drive which includes learning why it is unsafe to text and drive. We have severe fines for violating this law. Teen passengers are taught not to allow the drivers to text and drive. Parents can install aps on their children's cell phones that turn them off when the kids are driving. And there is more.....
Well BigSteve. When you are not just making shit up to suit your argument you are very good at making the argument for the other side.
The bottom line though, as I keep pointing out, is that you have made exactly no argument against the statistics that many of us have posted and it seems the best you can do is some vague notion that two wrongs make a right and libs.......
This is, for our overseas friends who must be rolling their eyes at this thread, is exactly why the ignorance on the right allows them to be so badly manipulated.
If you drive down the street and routinely hit a pothole, but DOT studies show that drivers routinely do not hit that pothole, are you suddenly believe you're not hitting that pothole?
No, you'll say that, despite what the studies indicate, your experience is that hitting that pothole is a problem...
It may be because I am a Mensa member and therefor omniscient but I tend to look out for potholes and even if I am careless and hit one I remember where the pot hole is and do not hit it again. Then I call my local authorities and whine until they fix it because I do not want someone to get hurt hitting the aforementioned pothole. Come to think of it even some of my non Mensa friends do just this same thing. What do you think that means?