- 31 May 2021 15:23
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Nothing personal, but your assumptions are erroneous and your use of the English language is atrocious.
In America we are supposedly governed by the social contract known as the Constitution of the United States. By definition we are guaranteed a Republican Form of Government with three separate, but equal branches. The reality is that we are not governed by the Constitution; we are no longer a Republic; there is no separation of powers. America is under the rule of an illegal, immoral, indefensible, unconscionable, unlawful, and unconstitutional de facto government. You have no real Rights as per the Bill of Rights.
It is not supposed to be like that. Today is Memorial Day. It is a day to reflect upon the many lives that have been lost in order to secure Freedom and Liberty and secure the blessings thereof for those fighting AND their Posterity (check out the Preamble to the Constitution if you're having trouble with this). Throughout history man has risen up against the shackles of tyranny and oppression. Liberty and Freedom are concepts that are inherent in man. Otherwise, so many would not be driven to fight for those concepts.
FWIW, I fought against the passage of the so - called "Patriot Act," and have even been a victim of it so I know what it's like to fight it in court. The balance of your world salad is impossible to address in a single thread. The founders and framers left us with admonitions on how to interpret the Constitution. Two of my favorite are these:
"If in the opinion of the People, the distribution or modification of the Constitutional powers be in any particular wrong, let it be corrected by an amendment in the way which the Constitution designates. But let there be no change by usurpation; for though this, in one instance, may be the instrument of good, it is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed." George Washington in his Farewell Address
"...on every question of construction, carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was past"(sic). Thomas Jefferson 12 June 1823
I am beyond semantics and the theory of political jockeying. We have a Right, a Duty, and an Obligation to demand that the government make good on the social contract as originally written and intended. If they can't do that, we remove ourselves from their jurisdiction, reclaim our Rights and move forward. We exhaust all of our nonviolent legal and political avenues of redress, but never relinquish nor forfeit our unalienable Rights. Nothing about this is rocket science. It has already been debated and litigated. The path to reclaiming our Rights was paved by the founders and framers. Our country was taken through fraud and deceit; by force and duress; by illegal and unconstitutional means. What we demand is simple and just.
"...nothing then is unchangeable but the inherent and unalienable Rights of man" Thomas Jefferson 5 June 1824
Odiseizam wrote:dont worry I know the difference, the question is do You know that for the elites that dont matters!? MY POINT IS SIMPLE PLUTOCRACY DECIDE nowadays HOW WILL BE INTERPRETED THE US'CONSTITUTION, as pointed in previous posts earlier in this thread [1][1]
You simply dont want to accept that the us'constitution is even shaped and still used as it feats the elites as in the beginning so as now, citizens are just their resources, I've intentionally pointed to the yale pamphlet so You would answer is that reachable what suggests Jack Balkin, probably You've read the proposed theme in the yale link!?simply there is breach in all legal rights in usA what about the natural one, from Your angle how would You explain the patriotic'act or the black'op funds or the fixed imposed minimum wage etc. etc. probably You are after literal constitutionalism but that will not get You anywhere in the power system of the current plutocratic elitism in usA, keep reading the Fraudalism Thread also suggested in the previous post You may found answer to Your dilemma why and how deception is interwoven in all western societies!
by Your logic in this respect freedom of speech also should be widely exercised, yet the same is confined only to the government and not media [1][2][2]
... so eg. in case of free speech as can be seen from the wiki link in the last footnote its matter of interpretation by the courts ... simply Your will to interpret the constitution (as I already said) will lead for sure to any county independence and believe me such freedom usA will not allow! us'constitution is legal enough as it suits the prevalent political narrative , but when and if comes to that some group of people to decide to use the unalienable rights as they fit them then instantly they will be chopped > the waco davidians and alike pop to mind in this respect ///my conclusion is that is war of words, but that will not give to the citizens true freedom in the way You are interpreting the constitution, Thats The Fraud On West while acting democracy imposing imperial authoritarianism, so this wouldnt be obvious not rarely assassinations in form of accidents are regular occurrence and not just to common people but political figures too JFK King Hendrix etc. ... check the next parse they will act blind long ahead ...
https://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/the-founders-originalism
... for them what matters is that they've got voting consent even the elections were framed [1] its same in international politics its same in economy FRAUD became norm and is implemented extra easily in corrupt place like uK eU or usA [2][2] its money jukebox and nothing else, an farce of modern hidden imperialism in plain sight, sometimes exercised easily sometimes in withdrawal changing the political puppets so the masses will be calm quickly, and the difference with the eastern empires is that in the western the true puppet master are behind the scenes, simple the same circumstance is side effect of the enlightenment skim for swapping the vatican authority and its royalism with freemasons and republicanism but as I said so people would follow back then the fm elites trowed them the false ideal of freedom, yeah free to kneel again!
Nothing personal, but your assumptions are erroneous and your use of the English language is atrocious.
In America we are supposedly governed by the social contract known as the Constitution of the United States. By definition we are guaranteed a Republican Form of Government with three separate, but equal branches. The reality is that we are not governed by the Constitution; we are no longer a Republic; there is no separation of powers. America is under the rule of an illegal, immoral, indefensible, unconscionable, unlawful, and unconstitutional de facto government. You have no real Rights as per the Bill of Rights.
It is not supposed to be like that. Today is Memorial Day. It is a day to reflect upon the many lives that have been lost in order to secure Freedom and Liberty and secure the blessings thereof for those fighting AND their Posterity (check out the Preamble to the Constitution if you're having trouble with this). Throughout history man has risen up against the shackles of tyranny and oppression. Liberty and Freedom are concepts that are inherent in man. Otherwise, so many would not be driven to fight for those concepts.
FWIW, I fought against the passage of the so - called "Patriot Act," and have even been a victim of it so I know what it's like to fight it in court. The balance of your world salad is impossible to address in a single thread. The founders and framers left us with admonitions on how to interpret the Constitution. Two of my favorite are these:
"If in the opinion of the People, the distribution or modification of the Constitutional powers be in any particular wrong, let it be corrected by an amendment in the way which the Constitution designates. But let there be no change by usurpation; for though this, in one instance, may be the instrument of good, it is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed." George Washington in his Farewell Address
"...on every question of construction, carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was past"(sic). Thomas Jefferson 12 June 1823
I am beyond semantics and the theory of political jockeying. We have a Right, a Duty, and an Obligation to demand that the government make good on the social contract as originally written and intended. If they can't do that, we remove ourselves from their jurisdiction, reclaim our Rights and move forward. We exhaust all of our nonviolent legal and political avenues of redress, but never relinquish nor forfeit our unalienable Rights. Nothing about this is rocket science. It has already been debated and litigated. The path to reclaiming our Rights was paved by the founders and framers. Our country was taken through fraud and deceit; by force and duress; by illegal and unconstitutional means. What we demand is simple and just.
"...nothing then is unchangeable but the inherent and unalienable Rights of man" Thomas Jefferson 5 June 1824