pugsville wrote:Market manipulation. all of them.
No they aren't. You are just makin' $#!+ up. Market manipulation is when market value is deliberately divorced from fundamentals based on expected income yield, as is currently the case with Tesla. There is no need for "manipulation" of a market that accurate values the subsidies the greedy, privileged, parasitic rich get from society.
Cleaners and taxi drivers all over the planet work a lot harder.
No they don't. Their work is actually
easier, as proved by the fact that so many people can do it. No one else can do what Musk does.
I known my share of rich people
No you haven't. You wouldn't be spewing such ill-informed $#!+ if you had.
and observed a lot of corroborates at "work"
What on earth do you incorrectly imagine you think "corroborates" might be?
They do not work hard.
I do not believe you have ever personally known any rich people who have earned their wealth through commensurate productive contributions. I have.
Why should rich peole who "work hard" be any more privileged than poor people who work hard.
No one should be privileged. But people should be rewarded according to how much they contribute, not how hard they work, and there are
some rich people like Musk who contribute orders of magnitude more than any ordinary worker, however hard-working.
Why should rich people not pay their fair share of tax?
I have stated explicitly that they
should. Their fair share is just determined by the value of their privileges, not their incomes.
No never.
You have offered no evidence for such a claim, nor will you ever be doing so. You are again just makin' $#!+ up. All you have is your envy and resentment of those who are harder working, more productive and successful than you.
I have
KNOWN such people, personally. Deal with it.
Everything relies of vast amount of other people, without which they would not be able to achieve anything. Ie Society.
So what? That is irrelevant because like the rest of us, they
already pay landowners full market value for permission to
access such advantages.
Isolating the money thet make form the contest that it is made in iand sayng it;s soley their own effort is just not correct.
I didn't say it was solely their own effort, I said if
their contribution made a difference of $X in total value produced, then they earned the $X difference their contribution made. See how that works?
It is definitely correct to isolate and distinguish things that are fundamentally different. Marx's fundamental "error" was pretending they are the same.
$100 Million dollar house is lavish. case closed, almost $1 million of lotus form a bond film.
You have offered no evidence for such a claim, and appear to be just makin' $#!+ up again:
https://www.loveproperty.com/gallerylis ... -franciscohttps://www.architecturaldigest.com/sto ... ouse-texasOh all the things he consumes , eats, and uses. How many does he make personally.
Huh??? How much of what
welfare recipients consume do they make personally? How much of it do any of us make personally? And how on earth could that possibly be relevant to whether his lifestyle is lavish?
You are just makin' $#!+ up, and spewing a filth-stream of ignorant, bigoted, disingenuous tripe with no basis in fact or logic.
How should things work in a tax system?
Read my previous post, and this time, try to find a willingness to know the facts it identifies.
Who make sthis judgement?
We all do. My judgement, unlike yours, just happens to be reasoned, informed, and objective.
how is it to done?
By abolishing privilege or, if it can't be abolished, taxing away its value. Read my previous post.
A tick box are you saving the planet?
No; you are just makin' $#!+ up again.
What tax system measure do you propose to apply this principle?
Repayment to the community of the subsidies privilege holders get (or, where possible, abolition of their privileges).
He decline st o contribute to the society that supports him.
GARBAGE. He has
contributed the entire production of Tesla, SpaceX, and who knows how many other productive enterprises that would not have existed but for his contributions.
It;s pretty direct measure of the benefit the individual reaps form being part of society. It;s faur.
No it isn't. Your claims are just false and absurd. In what sense is the income someone earns by their contribution
to production a measure of what they are getting
from society??? If anything, it is the other way around: earned income is a pretty direct measure of how much society
owes that person.
Rubbish.
Fact.
This is just a con by rich propel to avoid paying tax.
Yeah, I guess that must be why the rich and their paid sycophants oppose it with such maniacal ferocity, while they advocate
more taxation of earned income, sales, value added, etc.
You are the one whose anti-economic, anti-justice, anti-factual, anti-rational nonsense serves the narrow financial interests of the greedy, privileged, parasitic rich, and I will thank you to remember it.