[Comrade Ogilvy]

I just wanted to ask where are the roots, not necesarily of technoracy, but rather the roots of a desire to replace all manual labor of people by machines?

thx

[infestedterran]

I think there is a more simple way to see this. If you can simply think of Technocracy as the final stage of the Industrial Revolution. When I say Industrial Revolution, do not imagine masses of people moving from the rural country-side to urban cities. Instead, try to see it as the beginnings of when man was slowly being replaced with machine. If you see it in this light, you can easily imagine that in some point in the future machines will do all the toil and hard labor that humans do not wish to do.

So it is not that we [Technocrats] have a "desire" to replace all humans with machines; it is that we recognize that this change in society will happen sometime in the future; even if the transition is slowed down to a snails pace thanks to the modern market economie's inability to profit from such advances in technology.

Then again, you can just see all machines as tools that make our lives easier and more comfortable. Just like the rock was replaced by the mallet, the mallet by the hammer, and the hammer by the nail-gun. Why cant people just understand that this is nothing more than simple evolution?

[Josh]

Why cant people just understand that this is nothing more than simple evolution?

Because technocracy is part of the vast communist conspiracy to take over the world.

But, to be on-topic, I'd have to agree with Kolzene. Just look at human history. We've been constantly inventing things to make our lives easier. Even now we're creating things to make work simpler. Take, for example, Metal Rubber, featured in the September (or August, not sure) issue of Popular Science. It's flexible, light, pliable, and yet has the strength of steel. You can burn it, bend it, beat it, and it still won't break. Why was such a strong yet flexible (and, to run the risk of sounding like a geek, really cool) created in the first place? The answer is simple: it's easier to work with.

We're working on robotics for the same reason. The same applies to nanotechnology, along with nearly every facet of science. We're basically working to end work - to a degree.

[infestedterran]

Because technocracy is part of the vast communist conspiracy to take over the world.

You are joking right? Communism believes that all problems can be solved by simply passing a law that bans private property. Communist believe that politics is the only way to solve the worlds problems (i.e. communist party, proletarian dictatorship, abolish property).

Technocracy holds this to be utter nonsense. You cannot abolish property under scarcity conditions. Even if you abolish property through legislation, people who live in poverty will want to collect property to better their condition. Only when an abundance is established can "property" no longer have any subsistence. Abundance destroys all concepts of value in the free market system. Therefore, trade becomes unnecessary.

Conspiracy? It is no conspiracy. Technocracy Inc. is a legal organization that exists in both the U.S. and Canada. Besides, unlike Communism, Technocracy works within Democracy.

[Josh]

Because technocracy is part of the vast communist conspiracy to take over the world.

You are joking right?

Thus, the How'd you miss that?

[Mr. Anderson]

Yeah, he was clearly joking.