[Fasci XP]

I may be out on a limb alone here, but I believe that the professor, and indeed the intellectual as a whole, the scientist, and the University all ought to play a critical role under Fascism, by being among the centerpieces which society can revolve around. The University can form a complex with society, with the people striving to further education, research, and knowledge, all in benefit to the Nation.

Wasn't historical Fascism anti-intellectual? This is one thing I do not like, and do not agree with; the Professor is as important as the industrialist. Indeed, probably more important. Certainly more important than the soldier.

A legitimate Fascist state should not center around the military, but rather the scientist and professor.

[Daktoria]

How is this even possible?

Professors, by definition, are not strong people, so no, they wouldn't be able to embody fascist values.

Fascism is an ideology built around will power, not intelligence. Likewise, no, fascism doesn't care about the uncovering of understanding itself. It only cares about the application and power of understanding's results.

Fascism doesn't care about invention. It only cares about what inventions can do.

[Rei Murasame]

Fascism is only anti-intellectual when the intellectuals are undermining the cohesion of the group. Otherwise, let's use common sense and see that teachers are generally nation-builders.

Note that the United States is the country that memelogically seems to have the most disdain for teachers, and in practice their classical liberal arm (GOP) is the one that is the most keen defund them. There is a reason for that.

[Chill]

The role of the Professor under Fascism?

To do research to prove that Germans have the heaviest brain, thus the smartest people.

Fascism is only anti-intellectual when the intellectuals are undermining the cohesion of the group.

And sometimes the intellectuals are undermining the cohesion of the group by telling the TRUTH.

[Wolfman]

To do research to prove that Germans have the heaviest brain, thus the smartest people.

Absolute brain size is mostly irrelevant. What's important is brain size relative to body mass.

[Daktoria]

Thank you Chill.

Even then, plenty of Americans (as parents) love teachers. Progressives in America love how the classroom is a playground for equality breeding.

No, the reason many Americans despise teachers is because Americans hate learning, not community building. Teachers are looked upon as learning disciplinarians. Heck, schools are one of the biggest signs people use when deciding where to buy a house in deciding whether or not it's in an upstanding and safe community.

[Chill]

Absolute brain size is mostly irrelevant. What's important is brain size relative to body mass.

Well, modern studies show east asians have the largest brain both relatively and absolutely.

[Wolfman]

Not too surprised. Or interested.

[Figlio di Moros]

Wasn't historical Fascism anti-intellectual? This is one thing I do not like, and do not agree with; the Professor is as important as the industrialist. Indeed, probably more important. Certainly more important than the soldier. A legitimate Fascist state should not centre around the military, but rather the scientist and professor.

How is this even possible? Professors, by definition, are not strong people, so no, they wouldn't be able to embody fascist values.

Fascism is an ideology built around will power, not intelligence. Likewise, no, fascism doesn't care about the uncovering of understanding itself. It only cares about the application and power of understanding's results. Fascism doesn't care about invention. It only cares about what inventions can do.

You two make baby mussolini weep....

Fascism has never been "anti-intellectual". That's a myth of liberalism/leftists opposition, and supported by hollywood imagery. The truth is that the right, and fascism, embody a seperate form of intellectualism. Whereas liberals and leftists are rationalists, treating humans and societies like robots who can be constructing logically, the right/fascists are aestheticists- we recognize the irrational nature of man and incorporate it into our ideologies. Certainly, Julius Evola, Gentile, or de Benoit are not dolts.

[Fasci XP]

No doubt; I was looking for somebody to dispel that misconception. I simply believe that the University, as an institution, can become a centerpiece of society, or at least one of the centerpieces of society; and furthermore, discovery for the sake of discovery, and scientific mastery ought to be pursued.

[Figlio di Moros]

Certainly good can arise from University, but overemphasis is dangerous. It's role in enhancing society, and not "intellectualism for intellectualisms sake", should be pursued.

That doesn't mean the study of philosophy or abstract sciences are "fluff", but that it should keep in mind it's part of the larger sphere of human society- that military service, community organizing, or material hobbies are more effective for enhancing the soul of man, or most men, than a PhD in Philosophy.

[Fasci XP]

Maybe, but ideally individuals should be able to pursue those studies which matter to them and integrate them into the good of the nation, including the abstract studies.

What is the goal of a Fascist state, if not the strength and achievement of the nation? And what greater aspiration is there than knowledge?

[Andropov]

How is this even possible?

Professors, by definition, are not strong people, so no, they wouldn't be able to embody fascist values.

Fascism is an ideology built around will power, not intelligence. Likewise, no, fascism doesn't care about the uncovering of understanding itself. It only cares about the application and power of understanding's results.

Fascism doesn't care about invention. It only cares about what inventions can do.

Fascism is a progressive ideology, and professors and other academics can aid in scientific, philosophical, and social progress.

[Figlio di Moros]

Maybe, but ideally individuals should be able to pursue those studies which matter to them and integrate them into the good of the nation, including the abstract studies.

Sort of like the modern west, because our education has helped reduce our decadence, increase productivity and happiness, or actually produce more intelligent people?

What is the goal of a Fascist state, if not the strength and achievement of the nation? And what greater aspiration is there than knowledge?

Power, moral fortitude, sociality, exploration, longevity... Knowledge for knowledge sake is pretty pointless if it doesn't increase happiness, strength, or prestige.

[Fasci XP]

Knowledge for knowledge sake is a high aspiration. Viewing science as an ends to a means is very materialist and anti-curiousity. Science is beautiful in its own right, for its own sake; the same with other abstract diversions.

[Vera Politica]

Professors and Universities are, essentially, the focal-point of scientific research (and all other forms of research as well, from the social sciences to the humanities and so forth). So, at the very least, professors still serve the crucial, practical purpose of general scientific advancement.

Fascism has never been "anti-intellectual". That's a myth of liberalism/leftists opposition

For what it's worth, I am a Marxist that never doubted the intellectual foundations of Fascism. And it is not only rooted in older, 19th century philosophy. Giovanni Gentile, for one, was crucial in the Italian fascist movement. He himself was largely influenced by the anti-liberal strands of 19th century philosophy (Marx, Hegel and German idealism in general). I think the myth comes more from the disinterest in the theoretical underpinnings of fascism and anti-liberal political thought in general. In this respect, Marxists and Fascists have some common ground

[Figlio di Moros]

True, VP. Most people are unaware fascism even has basic tenets, let alone an intellectual basis for them. Hell, many people are unaware the right has an intellectual underpinning. At the least, people are aware of Marx and Engles, if they're not interested in them.

[Wolfman]

Yes, but most average people don't know there's a difference between Fascism and Socialism. Ultimately, everyone in the general Anti-Liberal group are thought to be the same.

[Figlio di Moros]

Ugh, avg. people are fairly aware of that. Libertarians and Randians are (willfully) unaware. There is some perception of it being indistinct or a branch of liberalism, but that's hardly the same thing.

The avg. person, of avg. intelligence and education, is perfectly aware of the difference between socialism and fascism.

[Jackal]

What is the role of teachers under Fascism?

To become leader, of course!