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DOG BREEDING

ImageDogs "get stuck" because they lost most of their intelligence through forced in-breeding

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Dog breeds were created by unnatural selection of mates. Rather than letting animals choose their own mates, humans decided to select (unnaturally) the mates of caged animals... in order to exaggerate certain pre-determined traits: Big ears, small ears, killer jaw, ability to hunt, pretty fur, etc.

We have many breeds of dogs because of this, and their exaggerated features are the result of forced incest. This unnatural concentration of arbitrarily-selected traits makes many dog breeds prone to insanity or to severe health problems. And they are all dumbed-down in the process - generations of incest having destroyed most of their instinctive knowledge.

HUMAN DOGS

Human societies have also practiced unnatural selection on other humans. The most exaggerated form of this happens in modern plantation slavery, like that which occured in the early years of the colonization of the Americas.

Human slaves were bred - like dogs - in order to (unnaturally) select for certain traits. Males and females were forced to breed (by their masters) with strong dummies, in order to create the ultimate super-slave - a strong dummy. A mentally weak pitbull.

This process went on for 20 or 30 generations in the Americas. The children of this process - the descendants of plantation slaves - have been unnaturally bred for many generations... to create pitbulls who are too dumb to rule themselves.

But while plantation slavery provides and obvious and extreme example of unnatural-breeding, many other groups have also practiced unnatural selection over the course of centuries (religious cults, for example, and the rich). So these groups have also been transmogrified into some kind of dumb pitbull human. Through incest.

SOLUTIONS

The only country that I am aware of that has taken this damage seriously is Cuba - a nation that has been actively promoting out-breeding (race-mixing) for a half century. Its proud "creole" cultural norm actually reinforces the idea that - the only way to get out of genetically-altered hell, is to mix with other 'races' until a healthy mutthood takes place.

Franz Fanon seemed to understand this concept as well. "We are all Algerian" refers to the fact that Algerians are a mix of several marauding groups of people with a wide variety of genetics, and not a specifically-manufactured breed of dog.

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Inbreeding will always produce pitbulls


Of course, the absolute and survival-enabling importance of out-breeding NEEDS to be highlighted by looking at its evil opposite - IN-BREEDING (progeny-producing sexual relations between family members).


wiki wrote:
...Inbreeding results in homozygosity, which can increase the chances of offspring being affected by recessive traits.[4] In extreme cases, this usually leads to at least temporarily decreased biological fitness of a population[5][6] (called inbreeding depression), which is its ability to survive and reproduce...


HOMOZYGOSITY

Medical News Today wrote:
...If someone inherits two identical copies of a harmful gene variant, they are predisposed to a condition.... Closely related parents’ children have an increased risk of homozygous conditions...

Examples of homozygous conditions:

Hemophilia
Hearing loss
Distinct facial features
Bone malformations
High cholesterol
High pressure in the blood vessels
Depression
Cancer


So imagine you're a nice, family-loving slave-owner in the early 1800s. You yourself have married a women of the same religion as yourself, perhaps from the same village in Scotland as yourself. And if you're both old-money blue-bloods, you may share some genetic material with your wife.

As for your slaves, you breed them by forcing the strong and obedient slaves to have lots of children - assets that you create without capital investment, just like cattle. And of course, as a wise slave-owner, you aren't likely to allow your skinny, smart-alecky slaves to multiply at all. Why would you want smart slaves who have little muscle? You want strong and obedient, not skinny and intellectual. And it's your choice, just like it is with the cows you breed. Your choice.

America is a land of choice for slave-owners. Meanwhile, the homozygous conditions keep piling up.

Same with religious cults who "choose" using unnatural selection. Certain traits are magnified in a way that would never occur if the humans involved had been allowed to instinctively choose their mates.

Choosing mates instinctively... is just as important as not poisonning the atmosphere with pollution. We pollute our own species when we "breed" it like cattle. And the rich do this to their slaves AND to themselves.

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Please, for the sake of life itself, CREOLE YOURSELF!
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Excessive outbreeding can also produce some problems. Look up the Savannah cat (hybrid) and male sterility.


There's a trade-off between too close inbreeding and too far outbreeding. One study suggested that third cousins may represent the "evolutionary sweet spot".

Marrying your cousin? There may be evolutionary benefits , David Warmflash , Genetic Literacy Project, August 3, 2018

When Incest Is Best: Kissing Cousins Have More Kin , by Nikhil Swaminathan, Scientific American, February 9, 2008


"Over millions of years, man has become the very paradigm of animals, but we must take care not to alter what nature has taken so long to forge, or risk being burned by the very fires of creation."
- ending narration The Outer Limits "New Breed", 1995
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By Puffer Fish
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outbreeding depression refers to cases where offspring from crosses between two different different populations have a lower level of fitness than offspring from crosses between individuals from the same population.

One of the ways that outbreeding depression can occur is by the breakdown of biochemical or physiological compatibilities between genes in the different breeding populations. Within local, isolated breeding populations, alleles are selected for their positive, overall effects in complementary combination with other specific alleles. Due to nonadditive gene action, the same genes may have rather different effects in different genetic backgrounds--hence, the potential evolution of locally coadapted gene complexes.


Example of Switchgrass

These effects can be observed in switchgrass (Panicum virgatum). While actually a single species, switchgrass comes in many different varieties, with striking differences between the different types. This genetic diversity reflects the divergent evolution and adaptation to a wide range of different environments. The different varieties of switchgrass can generally be grouped into two distinct forms: the lowland cultivars and the upland cultivars.

The lowland variety tends to produce more biomass, and grow up to 2.7 meters high in favorable environments. The upland variety is generally of more northern origin, and is more cold-tolerant. Upland switchgrass types are generally shorter, less than 2.4 meters in height, and less coarse than lowland types. The upland types tend to have more vigorous rhizomes so they tend to be more sod-forming, whereas the the lowland cultivars may appear to have a bunchgrass habit. Lowland cultivars appear more plastic in their morphology, produce larger plants if stands become thin or when planted in wide rows, and they seem to be more sensitive to moisture stress than upland cultivars.

One study mentions potential negetive effects on native varieties on switchgrass caused by outbreeding depression, which could be a cause for concern.
"Gene flow matters in switchgrass, a potential widespread biofuel feedstock", Charles Kwit, C. Neal Stewart. Department of Plant Sciences, University of Tennessee, Knoxville, Tennessee; and BioEnergy Science Center, Oak Ridge National Laboratory, Oak Ridge, Tennessee

"The potential for genetic pollution has been investigated in switchgrass..."
"Appropriate Use of Genetic Manipulation for the Development of Restoration Plant Materials", T. A. Jones, J. G. Robins, Progress in Botany, Volume 72, Part 5, p 249-264, 2011


Example in Humans?

Different groups of humans have been separately evolving for tens of thousands of years. There has been plenty of genetic divergence over this long period of time. Could it be possible that each of these separate groups of people have achieved, through natural selection, a fine-tuned balance of hormones and subtle gene expression, which could become upset by sudden change?

Herbert Spencer and the Harvard geneticist Edward East, a pioneer in hybrid corn research, proposed that genetic crossing would disrupt the smooth operation of the physical and mental qualities which have been established in each race over hundreds of generations by natural selection.

Carleton Coon, former professor at Harvard and president of the American Association of Physical Anthropologists, wrote: "Genes that form part of a cell nucleus possess an internal equilibrium as a group, just as do the members of social institutions. Genes in a population are in equilibrium if the population is living a healthy life as a corporate entity. Racial intermixture can upset the genetic as well as the social equilibrium of a group."

An analysis of more than 3 million respondents revealed the average pay was $15.74 per hour for people of mixed race, $17.39 for black people and $22.04 for white people. This was despite the fact that 18 percent of mixed-race people had college degrees, compared with 11 percent of black people and 28 percent of white people.
"Can the 'one-drop rule' tell us anything about racial discrimination? New evidence from the multiple race question on the 2000 Census", Robert W. Fairlie
University of California, Santa Cruz


A study by J. Richard Udry's National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health, which sampled a random, nationally representative school-based sample of U.S. adolescents in grades 7 through 12, during 1994-1995, showed an increase in behavioral problems amongst mixed-race children, as well as significantly higher rates of asthma, and generally poorer health. Another interesting finding was that mixed children that had a black parent were significantly more likely (63% more) to have skin problems.
J. Richard Udry, Janet Hendrickson-Smith, Carolina Population Center, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, 2003

Anita Patel,M.D., transplant nephrologist at Henry Ford Hospitalfound that kidney transplants between individuals of the same race had statistically betteroutcomes than transplant across different races.
http://www.time.com/time/health/article ... 74,00.html
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Puffer Fish wrote:Excessive outbreeding can also produce some problems. Look up the Savannah cat (hybrid) and male sterility....

This is not out-breeding. It is just the inbreeding of two different species, not the same at all.

I am talking about uncontrolled mixing of everyone. Not the channeled hybrid-cross-breeding of two distinct breeds.

In human terms, what you describe above would not be possible. Same with your long, broken-linked study in the second post. Not related to the human experience at all, and not your own words.

An analysis of more than 3 million respondents revealed the average pay was $15.74 per hour for people of mixed race, $17.39 for black people and $22.04 for white people.

A society that punishes people for race-mixing is likely to underpay its strongest survival groups. In Canada, an entire nation (the Acadians) were ethnic-cleansed for race mixing. So if mixed race people are underpaid (by the systemic racism of our system), they should at least console themselves that they don't live in Israel or anywhere else that lives in fear of "the other" or "race mixing."

I think Israels are the best example of "the perils of inbreeding" that is currently in the news. When the inbreeding is both physical and social.... it is an even bigger disaster.

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