[Sherlock Holmes]

I am waiting, @Pants-of-dog - cite from the report why are those aid convoys delayed or denied and also cite the example in your own source. Then explain how does this fit the starvation plan allegations.

This is found on the very first page of the website using the URL he posted:



I must ask, do you also believe that Donald Trump won the 2020 election?

[wat0n]

This is found on the very first page of the website using the URL he posted:

How does this respond to my question again?

Why were those deliveries delayed? Please cite the example that illustrates the conditions under which aid deliveries were obstructed.

I must ask, do you also believe that Donald Trump won the 2020 election?

No. Do you?

[Sherlock Holmes]

How does this respond to my question again?

Why were those deliveries delayed? Please cite the example that illustrates the conditions under which aid deliveries were obstructed.



No. Do you?

It says in plain English "delays in movements imposed by Israeli authorities". The reason is hardly hard to discern, to cause hardship, to hurt the population, to pursue their agenda of genocide. Of course you'll ask the Israelis "why" and they will lie and you will believe the lies.

[Sherlock Holmes]

Then of course we have this barbarity, also causing delays and harm to millions:



and before that, there was this, its been going on for some time:



The bloated fat cow on the right probably wanted the food all for herself !

[wat0n]

It says in plain English "delays in movements imposed by Israeli authorities". The reason is hardly hard to discern, to cause hardship, to hurt the population, to pursue their agenda of genocide. Of course you'll ask the Israelis "why" and they will lie and you will believe the lies.

Why were those restrictions imposed by the Israeli authorities? Is it part of some plan or maybe the example of how deliveries can go wrong can be informative?

[Pants-of-dog]

The restrictions imposed by the IDF and Israeli government have been described as arbitrary, changing, and impossible to prepare for. Often, humanitarian aid is turned away even though it has supposedly followed the rules.

Why would that be?

[QatzelOk]

...I must ask, do you also believe that Donald Trump won the 2020 election?

He may have gotten a lot more votes than Genocide Joe did, but he did NOT win the election.

In the USA, elections are won during the days and days of fraud and extortion that follows the vote.

It appears that Team AIPAC couldn't tolerate another four years of non-AIPAC people in the State Department so they seem to have "bought" the victory for their brain-dead syncophant.

The Donald made the American elite look too obviously organized-crime-ish for their own taste, and this was far too revealing for the sneaky team of ruling liars who prefer living in the shadows of presidential motorcades.

[wat0n]

The restrictions imposed by the IDF and Israeli government have been described as arbitrary, changing, and impossible to prepare for. Often, humanitarian aid is turned away even though it has supposedly followed the rules.

Why would that be?

Yeah, because they are based on the ever-changing situation on the ground. Even the Israelis cannot be 100% sure what they'll find.

[KurtFF8]

He may have gotten a lot more votes than Genocide Joe did, but he did NOT win the election.

He did not.

[KurtFF8]

Whistleblowers allege widespread abuses at Israeli detention camp

Yet more evidence of Israel's war crimes coming to light.

[Pants-of-dog]

Yeah, because they are based on the ever-changing situation on the ground. Even the Israelis cannot be 100% sure what they'll find.

This seems implausible.

Provide a link and a quote.

[wat0n]

Why is it implausible?

[Pants-of-dog]

Link and a quote

[wat0n]

I'm waiting, why is it implausible again? Even your own source mentions ongoing combat as one impediment for aid delivery.

[Pants-of-dog]

Since @wat0n is not supporting (or even clarifying) his argument, it can be ignored.

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Land crossings are tightly controlled by the Israel Defence Forces (IDF), with aid convoys subject to exhaustive inspections to prevent the delivery of ‘dual use’ items that might benefit Hamas or be used as a weapon. Stakeholders reported to ICAI an example of stone fruit being turned away for this reason. ICAI requested an interview with the Israeli authorities to comment on the reasons for the barriers to humanitarian aid, but no one was available.

https://icai.independent.gov.uk/uk-aid- ... ve-access/

What possible conditions could change on the ground to make stone fruit a military risk?

[wat0n]

@Pants-of-dog it is not under dispute that imports of food and medicine to Gaza are above pre-war levels. If civilians find it hard to access food, it is not because of whatever happens at the border but because of whatever happens inside Gaza.

Your own OCHA source says explicitly continued combat is an impediment to aid delivery in Gaza. Your attempts to ignore it, when you posted it, is noted and is an example of your typical weaseling.

[Pants-of-dog]

This is a ridiculous accusation from someone who ignored quoted text showing that the IDF and Israeli government are responsible for the fact that very few humanitarian aid trucks were allowed in until recently.

Everyone else read it fine.

Also, IDF checkpoints stopping food delivery are not just at the border. On the 7th, a World Food Programme convoy of 14 trucks was turned back at an internal checkpoint by the IDF.

[wat0n]

According to OCHA, imports of both food and medicine have been at or above pre-war levels since December. You can't get even that right, even after providing you with the source and plots.

And yes, there are checkpoints inside Gaza. You know why? Because there is active combat.

[Pants-of-dog]

According to OCHA, imports of both food and medicine have been at or above pre-war levels since December. You can't get even that right, even after providing you with the source and plots.

When I Google your claim, this is the first result:

The humanitarian crisis in Gaza is set to worsen once again as deliveries of aid and fuel to the Palestinian territory slow to a trickle in the wake of Israel’s two-week-old ground offensive in the southern city of Rafah.

The UN has suspended food distribution in Rafah owing to a lack of supplies and insecurity, the world body said late on Tuesday, and delivery operations from the new US-funded floating pier have also been halted after desperate people seized most of the shipment offloaded on to trucks on Saturday, an incident in which one person was killed.

Since 10 May, shortly after Israel seized control of the Rafah crossing with Egypt, through which the majority of aid to Gaza flows, only about three dozen trucks have successfully been delivered via the nearby Kerem Shalom crossing, and only about a quarter of the allowed fuel has been delivered since the Israeli operation began.

The ongoing fighting means that both Kerem Shalom and Rafah are effectively blocked, and perishable food and medicine is piling up on the Egyptian side of the border. Egypt and Israel have traded blame over a failure to negotiate Rafah’s reopening, which has also prevented sick and injured Palestinians from leaving the strip for treatment elsewhere.

“It is better than before in the market right now, there are bananas and peaches, and the prices are more normal, but we are worried that it will not last,” said Mohammed Azaiza, an accountant from Deir al-Balah whose home was destroyed and is now sheltering with his family elsewhere in the central city.

“There are so many people to feed now too. Thousands of people who were in Rafah have come to Deir al-Balah.”

Limited distributions of reduced food parcels are ongoing in central Gaza, said Abeer Etefa, a spokesperson for the UN’s World Food Programme (WFP), but the agency’s food parcel supplies are expected to be depleted within days.

“Humanitarian operations in Gaza are near collapse,” she said, and if food and other supplies do not resume “in massive quantities, famine-like conditions will spread”.


The UN says 1.1 million people in the coastal strip – nearly half the population – face catastrophic levels of hunger, and that the territory is on the brink of famine.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/artic ... a-says-wfp

And yes, there are checkpoints inside Gaza. You know why? Because there is active combat.

So you agree that the IDF are stopping food deliveries in places other than just the border crossings.

[wat0n]

Are you saying the IDF should let humanitarian aid convoys be caught in the crossfire, @Pants-of-dog?

Also, it is Egypt who decided to close the Rafah crossing. Not Israel.