[ckaihatsu]

conservatives who wish to impose a political agenda

Like BlutoSays.

[Unthinking Majority]

So when we look at the facts as they present themselves, we see that it is conservatives who wish to impose a political agenda on education, while progressives are, at most, espousing their views on an individual level as many other conservative teachers do.

LOL nice try.

You still haven't answered my questions so I will assume you would silence teachers if they espoused conservative views like pro-Trump, anti-abortion, anti-trans etc.

You've also said that not being political is "conservative" and that you're against this, so I'll also assume you want to insert leftwing political activism into the classroom.

[BlutoSays]

Like BlutoSays.

I am God Emperor! I live rent-free in the upper two inches of liberals, progressives and commies everywhere. I get so many mentions around here from seething leftists, it's a beautiful thing.

[ckaihatsu]

I am God Emperor! I live rent-free in the upper two inches of liberals, progressives and commies everywhere.

I don't want to hear your sick porn references. (grin)

I get so many mentions around here from seething leftists, it's a beautiful thing.

'Seething leftist'. Found my epitaph. (grin)

[Pants-of-dog]

@Unthinking Majority

Feel free to assume whatever you wish about me. My actual position is so much more radical that this kind of confusion is irrelevant.

Now, back to the facts:

Current events show us that if we leave it to state governments, conservative governments will censor people while progressive ones will not. Consequently, I can see why conservatives like this “states rights” position.

Do we see a similar sort of dynamic when school boards choose for themselves?

[Rancid]

Everything MAGA's like bluto claim "the left" is doing, they are doing themselves.

Jan 6th was a clear attempt to "burn it all down".

Fucking morons

[late]

Everything MAGA's like bluto claim "the left" is doing, they are doing themselves.

Jan 6th was a clear attempt to "burn it all down".

Fucking morons

Pure projection, an appalling, disgusting, racist attack on civilisation, democracy, and the Republic.

[ckaihatsu]

LOL nice try.

You still haven't answered my questions so I will assume you would silence teachers if they espoused conservative views like pro-Trump, anti-abortion, anti-trans etc.

You've also said that not being political is "conservative" and that you're against this, so I'll also assume you want to insert leftwing political activism into the classroom.

@Unthinking Majority

Feel free to assume whatever you wish about me. My actual position is so much more radical that this kind of confusion is irrelevant.

Now, back to the facts:

Current events show us that if we leave it to state governments, conservative governments will censor people while progressive ones will not. Consequently, I can see why conservatives like this “states rights” position.

Do we see a similar sort of dynamic when school boards choose for themselves?

I don't know why everyone is *pussyfooting* around the core / crux of the issue, which is *government power* -- the Confederacy-type states want power *devolved* (down to 'states rights') for the prevailing Northern-half, if you want to look at it that way, or red-vs.-blue.

The 'state-vs.-classrooms' thing, though, is just *quicksand* since they're practically *synonymous* -- as long as there's a bourgeois state there will be bourgeois (civil-society-type) *laws*, since that's what the bourgeois private-property revolutions were all founded on, with commodity production and mobile exchanges, surpassing feudal estates.

Teachers are *state employees*, so under bourgeois law they're subject to supervision, administration, etc., the same as any *private-sector* employee / worker. Presumably this extends to the subject matter taught in the classroom as well, as seen from the politics of historical-accounts being in the news -- 'woke history', or the critiquing of early American history.

Subjects like evolution or sex ed are going to be a matter of state policy and surrounding politics, of course, particularly societally formalized in the classroom.

In a post-capitalist *absence* of bourgeois administration, teachers, as workers, would be in collective common control of their own labor -- teaching. But I think there would *still* be a need for some kind of 'professional association'-type organization, meaning the organic self-organization of whatever group of teachers themselves, workplace-by-workplace -- for the 'standards' aspect of the profession, as for the 'vetted' approach to history.

Institutional racism in history is *undeniable* these days, though, and I'd go so far as to say that much of the Biden *campaign*, and the 2020 election, *hinged* on police brutality and killer cops:

Former Vice President and 2020 Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden said "these shots pierce the soul of our nation" and called for an "immediate, full, and transparent investigation".[83] Biden and his running mate Kamala Harris spoke to Blake's father for an hour.[84] On September 3, Biden and his wife Jill met with multiple members of Blake's family at Milwaukee Mitchell International Airport for 90 minutes; Blake joined the meeting by phone from his hospital bed. Biden then went to Kenosha to speak with members of the community at a local church. This was his first campaign trip to Wisconsin.[85] Harris spoke to Blake by telephone on September 7.[86]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_ ... Government

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Also:


Uvalde school district suspends entire police force, superintendent to retire amid fallout from shooting

https://abcnews.go.com/US/uvalde-school ... d=91172897


Security footage released from inside Uvalde, Texas, school confirms police ran away from gunfire, loitered in hallway

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/0 ... i-j13.html

[BlutoSays]

@Unthinking Majority

Feel free to assume whatever you wish about me. My actual position is so much more radical that this kind of confusion is irrelevant.

Now, back to the facts:

Current events show us that if we leave it to state governments, conservative governments will censor people while progressive ones will not. Consequently, I can see why conservatives like this “states rights” position.

Do we see a similar sort of dynamic when school boards choose for themselves?

Now back to REALITY. Liberals, progressives and commies (all the same) ARE CENSORING PEOPLE TODAY.

See the behavior of all the social media outlets in Silicon Valley, China's social credit program,
the Biden REGIME'S attempt to instantiate a "Department of Disinformation" and the January 6th committee,
which only calls on people with testimony favorable to the democrat party's preformed and coordinated narrative.

[BlutoSays]

Everything MAGA's like bluto claim "the left" is doing, they are doing themselves.

Jan 6th was a clear attempt to "burn it all down".

Fucking morons

[Unthinking Majority]

@Unthinking Majority

Feel free to assume whatever you wish about me. My actual position is so much more radical that this kind of confusion is irrelevant.

So what you're saying is that you're "another leftist working to burn down the system". Since it's true, it's obvious why you'd come to the defense of these teachers in the OP.

Now, back to the facts:

Current events show us that if we leave it to state governments, conservative governments will censor people while progressive ones will not. Consequently, I can see why conservatives like this “states rights” position.

Do we see a similar sort of dynamic when school boards choose for themselves?

Your assumption is false:

https://www.insider.com/new-york-princi ... deo-2019-7

https://www.insider.com/new-york-princi ... deo-2019-7

https://www.businessinsider.com/califor ... nt-2021-11

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing ... upport-of/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html

[Pants-of-dog]

So what you're saying is that you're "another leftist working to burn down the system". Since it's true, it's obvious why you'd come to the defense of these teachers in the OP.


Your assumption is false:

https://www.insider.com/new-york-princi ... deo-2019-7

https://www.insider.com/new-york-princi ... deo-2019-7

https://www.businessinsider.com/califor ... nt-2021-11

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing ... upport-of/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html

I have no idea what you are trying to argue with these links.

Please state your claim clearly, quote the relevant text, and explain how the text supports your claim. Thank you.

[Rancid]

@BlutoSays are you one of those "a civil is coming" morons? Do you plan to take up arms if the 2022 elections don't go your way?

[BlutoSays]

@BlutoSays are you one of those "a civil is coming" morons? Do you plan to take up arms if the 2022 elections don't go your way?

Not at all. Are YOU democrat retards (redundant) planning to do that? I would say it's highly likely based on YOUR PAST performance.

[Rancid]

YOU democrat retards

I'm not a democrat you fucking moron. Get it through your thick stupid fucking skull.

[Potemkin]

I'm not a democrat you fucking moron. Get it through your thick stupid fucking skull.

But... but... what else is there...?

[Unthinking Majority]

I have no idea what you are trying to argue with these links.

Please state your claim clearly, quote the relevant text, and explain how the text supports your claim. Thank you.

You said progressives don't censor teachers for rightwing political views. The evidence is in the headlines in the links. I'm not quoting any text and doing your work for you.

Whether you click on the links or not is irrelevant. This line of argument is over as I have disproven your claims.

[Rancid]

But... but... what else is there...? :?:

His level of stupidity should be illegal.

[BlutoSays]

I'm not a democrat you fucking moron. Get it through your thick stupid fucking skull.

[Pants-of-dog]

You said progressives don't censor teachers for rightwing political views. The evidence is in the headlines in the links. I'm not quoting any text and doing your work for you.

Whether you click on the links or not is irrelevant. This line of argument is over as I have disproven your claims.

I read the links.

Not a single one shows progressives censoring anyone.