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By QwertyKey
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Racial Admixture Studies. Black children with lighter skin, for example, average higher IQ scores.

Was anyone else very surprised by that fact? Does that mean that there is a negative correlation between IQ and skin pigmentation within a single race? Would this hold for all races?
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By Dr House
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Order wrote:An argument that rests on the silly assumption that your success in life solely depends on how hard-working and intelligent you are.

It doesn't depend solely on that, but it does hinge heavily on it. I'd further add that success in life also depends, especially in industrialized countries, on how astute you are. Even if you can't hack a BS for example (either due to lacking the mental capacity or due to sloth or pressing life conditions), you can still get a trucking license and make a very good living, if you have the sense to actually go after it.

QwertyKey wrote:Racial Admixture Studies. Black children with lighter skin, for example, average higher IQ scores.

Was anyone else very surprised by that fact? Does that mean that there is a negative correlation between IQ and skin pigmentation within a single race? Would this hold for all races?

For the record I'm somewhat agnostic on the merit of race-IQ variation, but let's assume for a moment it has merit. I'd say yes, it makes sense for pigmentation to be negatively correlated with IQ for two reasons. First, darker-skinned people evolved darker skin as a response to warmer climates, which also happen to feature longer growing seasons and more abundant food, thus reducing the need for innovation and naturally human capacity for it. Second, darker pigmentation inhibits the production of vitamin D, which has a negative impact on brain size.

The correlation isn't perfect, however. Atlantic-Mediterranean people have been found to be every bit as intelligent as Nordic and Alpine people, although atlanto-meds from the Iberian peninsula are slightly less so due to Moorish admixture.
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By ingliz
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House wrote:atlanto-meds from the Iberian peninsula are slightly less so due to Moorish admixture

A heritage you are especially proud of! All is clear now, below average IQ is only to be expected from someone of your 'race', or is that not what you were trying to say?
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By Dr House
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Do you know the meaning of the term average?
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By ingliz
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So, you are only average, average in a 'below average' subset, mediocre in other words.
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By Dr House
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No, I'm above average. The fact I'm above a lower average has no bearing on that fact. Image

Is that really such a difficult concept to comprehend?
By Watermoon
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No, I'm above average. The fact I'm above a lower average has no bearing on that fact.

Is that really such a difficult concept to comprehend?

House...my understand is...you said your nation is low IQ ... :eh: so you are smarter than your people, however..still lower than...us, Asians :lol:
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By NoRapture
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No, I'm above average...Is that really such a difficult concept to comprehend?
No, House. It's just a difficult concept to believe, by any intelligence standard.
By chaostrivia
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jimjilin wrote:Here's a synopsis of an article about race and IQ. The article claims that racial differences in average IQ are largely genetic in origin. What do you think?


Guys.. before you fire your gaussians....

IQ and race is a very controversial subject among the world's leading experts.

If you want to convince me of anything, you will have to quote something of more credibility than one which is hosted on a blog and points in turn to a website like this: http://www.charlesdarwinresearch.org/

My professional knowledge on the subject is like most who posted before me: none.
It is a fascinating subject, and it is not measurable. It is impossible to arrive at the right result because the countless other factors just just can not easily isolated or taken into consideration without a fatal decrease of statistics below the decisiveness point.

But if I will have to guess my guess would be:
The genetic effect on race IQ difference is negligible in comparison with the other factors.
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By NoRapture
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IQ and race is a very controversial subject among the world's leading experts.
I would presume those experts to be scientists? If so, there isn't the slightest controversy among the leading and most active scientists in any community. Neither race nor intelligence have a clear enough scientific definition any longer to have any relevance at all in the infinitely fine filter of biogenetics. The terms are archaic to science. They are in a scrap-pile with words like ether, pneuma, and phlogiston. There is also a word for the three or four once-scientists who insist on a relationship between skull circumference, skin pigment, and intelligence. The word is crank. I like to add the adjective, dangerous, before using it in regard to "racialism". Bigot applies most appropriately of all.
By chaostrivia
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I would presume those experts to be scientists? If so, there isn't the slightest controversy among the leading and most active scientists in any community. Neither race nor intelligence have a clear enough scientific definition any longer to have any relevance at all in the infinitely fine filter of biogenetics. The terms are archaic to science. They are in a scrap-pile with words like ether, pneuma, and phlogiston. There is also a word for the three or four once-scientists who insist on a relationship between skull circumference, skin pigment, and intelligence. The word is crank. I like to add the adjective, dangerous, before using it in regard to "racialism". Bigot applies most appropriately of all.

Thank you, twin brother, for the enlightment.
I buy this.
My post was more or less like those before... rubbish.
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By NoRapture
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My post was more or less like those before... rubbish.
Not at all chaos. I find your posts among the most enlightening. When even someone like you, and I've made the same mistake, can lapse into the "controversy" about "racialism" and find yourself debating a pinhead the number of chromosomes on the head of a pin, I lunge for my keyboard. Sorry. Plus. I like your avatar.
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