Le Gros Bonnet wrote:I am speaking about the 1948 Naqba. A part of the 1947/1948 Iraeli-Arab war. What are you on with 68 years? There was no IDF. There was the Haganah, Irgun and the Lehi.
I sugget YOU read some history. I posted you a link. Please do me the courtesy of readiing it.
Ok. I'll explain it to you :
First, 68 years is the number of years since 1880 (First Aliya) to 1948 (Declaration of Idepedence), were Jews enterd Israel.
It was a response to your "speedy entry".
Secondly, The Naqba (Al Naqba or Hanekba) is about the creation of Israel, it's not part of anything.
Third, the IDF was established in 1948.
Romans integrated their conquered populations, left them their lands, customs, religions and a way to make a living.
First, Do you know how Christianity spread? By the Romans of course........
Secondly, they "integrated" by oppression.
http://www.unrv.com/culture/roman-slavery.phphttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_ ... man_Empirehttp://www.awesomestories.com/movies/pa ... st_ch2.htmUnlike the Israelis whd destroyed the Palestinian homes and towns, killed off those they couldn't drive off and refused to allow any right of return even to this day.
Theft pure and simple.
Yes.. Those rogues Israelis.....
See, I don't know where you getting your info, but you need to double check it, cause it's pretty much off..
Sayed Zakerya wrote:Not correct. The clashes started after UNGA 181 decision that was processed , facilitated & enforced by the US / Other colonial power to impose undeserved legitimacy on the Zionist project.
Zionist project...
The far stronger Zionist Gangs ( Haganah, Palmakh, Irgun & Lehi) launched aerial attacks on the Palestinian inhabitants between Novemebr 1947 till the End of March 1948.
On the 30th of March, the Haganah started the execution of Plan D whose targets were to occupy the UNGA 181 decision nominated Jewish state lands & to evacuate these from its Palestinian inhabitants. The war order included :-
Areial attacks??? with what?
The first Chezch Messerschmitt planes were brought to Israel only at the end of MAY 1948. So how could they performed an areial attacks till the end of MARCH???
The Zionists forces were far stronger & modernly armed than the poorly equipped / organized Palestinians. The defeats , humiliation & atrocities which the Palestinians were subjected to, provoked the neighboring Arab states to intervene.
Even with the Arab armies intervention , the numeric & armor superiority was always possessed by the Zionists during the whole 1948 war.
The IDF was poorly eqiuped, not to mention, that a lot of Holocaust survivors that only got to Israel participated in combat.
Please stop with the "Oh how poor...." behaviour. I'm not talking about those three masscares preformed by them during Brittish mandate. So please.
Both sides (Palestinian and Israelis) were poorly equiped, thing is, Israelis feard that the arab legion would wiped them out, so they fought hard as they could.
"provoked the neighboring Arab states to intervene."
Stick to real facts. They intervened because they thought they could win easly. They were wrong and therefore lost.
Plus they did it not to help the Palestinians but to annihilate Israel.
"Even with the Arab armies intervention , the numeric & armor superiority was always possessed by the Zionists during the whole 1948 war."
Why you lie?
Are you that brain washed?
This is the real numbers (15 May 1948 - Wikipedia) :
Israel -------------------------------------------------- Arab Legion
Tanks : 13 ----------------------------------------------- 52
Armored vehicles (With cannon) : 2 ------------------ 200
Armored vehicles (Without cannon) : 120------------- 300
Artillery : 5--------------------------------------------- 140
AT & AA : 24------------------------------------------- 220
Overall : Israel 164 -------------------- Arab Legion 912
Yeah I see how the IDF "dominated" with armour.....
This is half of the truth. The major Palestinians exodus was executed by the zionists
I wrote about it already several times. The majority left because of the Mofti's order.
"The most potent factor [in the flight of Palestinians] was the announcements made over the air by
the Arab-Palestinian Higher Executive, urging all Haifa Arabs to quit... It was clearly intimated that
Arabs who remained in Haifa and accepted Jewish protection would be regarded as renegades."
-- London Economist October 2, 1948
"It must not be forgotten that the Arab Higher Committee encouraged the refugees' flight from their
homes in Jaffa, Haifa, and Jerusalem."
-- Near East Arabic Broadcasting Station, Cyprus, April 3, 1949
"Every effort is being made by the Jews to persuade the Arab populace to stay and carry on with
their normal lives, to get their shops and businesses open and to be assured that their lives and
interests will be safe."
-- Haifa District HQ of the British Police, April 26, 1948, (quoted in Battleground by Samuel Katz).
"The Arab civilians panicked and fled ignominiously. Villages were frequently abandoned before they
were threatened by the progress of war."
-- General John Glubb "Pasha," The London Daily Mail, August 12, 1948
Sir John Troutbeck, British Middle East Office in Cairo, noted in cables to superiors (1948-49) that
the refugees (in Gaza) have no bitterness against Jews, but harbor intense hatred toward Egyptians:
"They say 'we know who our enemies are (referring to the Egyptians)', declaring that their Arab
brethren persuaded them unnecessarily to leave their homes…I even heard it said that many of the
refugees would give a welcome to the Israelis if they were to come in and take the district over."
"The Arab states which had encouraged the Palestine Arabs to leave their homes temporarily in
order to be out of the way of the Arab invasion armies, have failed to keep their promise to help
these refugees."
-- The Jordanian daily newspaper Falastin, February 19, 1949.
"The 15th May, 1948, arrived ... On that day the mufti of Jerusalem appealed to the Arabs of
Palestine to leave the country, because the Arab armies were about to enter and fight in their stead."
-- The Cairo daily Akhbar el Yom, October 12, 1963
"The Arab Exodus …was not caused by the actual battle, but by the exaggerated description spread
by the Arab leaders to incite them to fight the Jews. …For the flight and fall of the other villages it is
our leaders who are responsible because of their dissemination of rumors exaggerating Jewish
crimes and describing them as atrocities in order to inflame the Arabs ... By spreading rumors of
Jewish atrocities, killings of women and children etc., they instilled fear and terror in the hearts of the
Arabs in Palestine, until they fled leaving their homes and properties to the enemy."
-- The Jordanian daily newspaper Al Urdun, April 9, 1953.