- 20 Oct 2023 10:06
#15291948
Skinster, if the bombing continues and the war speeds up the genocide for the Palestinians how is this going to affect the outcome for the region? Is Israel going to have an all Jewish only state with Jerusalem as its center?
I find this interesting, because if you study the Christian doctrine of Jesus of Nazareth he was rejected by the Rabbis due to not being the Messiah they were looking for. A Messiah that would include the Jews being the center of all doctrine and power. Jesus could be interpreted as rejecting an ancient form of Zionism no? All that writing about accepting outsiders, sinners, the marginalized, the lepers, the rejects of society, and above all the ones the Roman authorities never negotiated with because they were powerless.
Who were the Rabbis from the Temple in Jerusalem? Why did they crucify a Jew that was not part of the inner circle and was an upstart? The revolutionary?
The ones who want an Israel, pure, pristine, with not a single Muslim or Christian muddying up the waters of their crystalline and pure Jewish state...it is amazing how that is also an old storyline from the Holy Bible.
Again, racial purity, purity of religions and purity of ethnicity or purity of any sort in human societies is a lie. That does not exist and never can really be achieved. Humanity and its mixing of cultures has always existed. The purity myth is about intolerance for differences. If you think with some real human universality, that is modern and forward-thinking are supposed to be understanding that there are universal human rights. Respect those rights, they apply universally to all human beings who want to live in peace in this world.
This is Lauren Booth, I never heard from her before. She is very religious. She is also a reporter.
Skinster, I have always had issues with religious dogmas. From all human religions. All of them have dogmas. And they believe strongly in being in the right. Being the ones with truth. Is it really that difficult to just allow government to give one vote and one person, and allow many people of many faiths to cooperate and share power....it is so incredibly cruel and outrageous to be wanting death and oppression on the group that is not part of your own group. You got to see beyond the pristine theories of purity. It is really crazy.
skinster wrote:The Israelis are not interested in a Palestinian state existing. They want all of historic Palestine and that is evident in their policies over the decades.
The two-state solution can never exist. Sooner or later it'll be one-state with democratic rights for all. But that will be forced upon the Israelis since they've shown they are not willing to compromise at all. With the decline of the U.S. empire and rise of other world powers, this is probably something that'll happen in our lifetimes. Unless world war 3 in the region kicks off, which is the way things are looking at the moment. The U.S. and Israel vs the rest of the region, which has Russian and Chinese backing.
Skinster, if the bombing continues and the war speeds up the genocide for the Palestinians how is this going to affect the outcome for the region? Is Israel going to have an all Jewish only state with Jerusalem as its center?
I find this interesting, because if you study the Christian doctrine of Jesus of Nazareth he was rejected by the Rabbis due to not being the Messiah they were looking for. A Messiah that would include the Jews being the center of all doctrine and power. Jesus could be interpreted as rejecting an ancient form of Zionism no? All that writing about accepting outsiders, sinners, the marginalized, the lepers, the rejects of society, and above all the ones the Roman authorities never negotiated with because they were powerless.
Who were the Rabbis from the Temple in Jerusalem? Why did they crucify a Jew that was not part of the inner circle and was an upstart? The revolutionary?
The ones who want an Israel, pure, pristine, with not a single Muslim or Christian muddying up the waters of their crystalline and pure Jewish state...it is amazing how that is also an old storyline from the Holy Bible.
Again, racial purity, purity of religions and purity of ethnicity or purity of any sort in human societies is a lie. That does not exist and never can really be achieved. Humanity and its mixing of cultures has always existed. The purity myth is about intolerance for differences. If you think with some real human universality, that is modern and forward-thinking are supposed to be understanding that there are universal human rights. Respect those rights, they apply universally to all human beings who want to live in peace in this world.
This is Lauren Booth, I never heard from her before. She is very religious. She is also a reporter.
Skinster, I have always had issues with religious dogmas. From all human religions. All of them have dogmas. And they believe strongly in being in the right. Being the ones with truth. Is it really that difficult to just allow government to give one vote and one person, and allow many people of many faiths to cooperate and share power....it is so incredibly cruel and outrageous to be wanting death and oppression on the group that is not part of your own group. You got to see beyond the pristine theories of purity. It is really crazy.
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en cada corazón,
en cada soledad.
Silvio Rodriguez