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By RhetoricThug
#14180045
Lately I have started to see the merits of nationalism and ideas that usually go along with fascism.
I think that the left & right political spectrum is inappropriate for this century. It may be time to replace left and right with centralized and decentralized schools of thought.

I tie my views that oppose globalisation and miscegenation, with that of particularism. I seek small communities, but promote a strong identity within each community. I believe that any small community that voluntarily holds the same views will keep the peace. Living in such a place is by consent, force is not needed, or intended.

We believe in political, social and economic decentralisation. In other words, we wish to see a positive downward trend whereby all bureaucratic concepts such as the UN, NATO, the EU, the World Bank and even nation-states like England and Germany are eradicated and consequently replaced by autonomous village-communities


Much of what we do has to be covert, because the groups that direct the anti-Capitalist movement are usually controlled by Left-wing dogmatists who believe that we National-Anarchists are trying to subvert Anarchism for our own sinister ends. But this is false. As we've said elsewhere time and time again, we are not 'racists' or 'supremacists' with some kind of secret agenda, we are seeking our own space in which to live according to our own principles. Sadly, however, most people on the Left want more than that and will not rest until they can organise every minute aspect of people's lives. ... The Left, just like the totalitarian Right, refuses to tolerate anyone who tries to opt out of its vision of an all-inclusive society. Some of us, however, want no part of this and will only be 'socialists' among ourselves and with our own kind


I'd also like to note, within my search for refining my anarchist ideals- I want mutuality and natural order to have focus.
I think that moving away from the fantastic agenda of Anarcho-primitivism is essential for me at this point. We are too far along in the advances of civilization for the deconstruction of modern life, at least completely. Though I do believe that such societies (primitive) will rise given the opportunity. National Anarchism may promote their harmony as well.
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By Fasces
#14180048
In an ideal world, I'd be a National Anarchist, but the benefits of centralization simply make replicating its successes on a localized scale impossible.
By Decky
#14180241
You are aware they your nation of fascist anarchists would just be invaded by a nation that still had the state (the most powerful weapon in the history of the world)?

It's unworkable.
#14180246
So work makes my nation unworkable? I'm confused, my fundamental state mental- concludes irony due to your take on the representation.
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By Fasces
#14180273
Yes, you are right, Decky.

I alluded to such in my post, though I feel you misunderstood National Anarchy. The term anarchy, in fact, is not appropriate, because state apparatuses would still be maintained, only on a hyper-localized scale (the village-state) according to the customs of the group that resides there (be it a tribal chief, a mayor, etc).
By Decky
#14180282
though I feel you misunderstood National Anarchy. The term anarchy, in fact, is not appropriate, because state apparatuses would still be maintained, only on a hyper-localized scale (the village-state) according to the customs of the group that resides there (be it a tribal chief, a mayor, etc).


Oh I understood but a confederation of small "statlets" would still be crushed by a "real country" for reasons that are obvious but that I cant be arsed to go into (economies of scale, coordination etc).
By SolarCross
#14180440
What are we still living in napoleonic times? Get with the times. Just have some nukes and non-existant gun control and you got a polity no one will fuck with.
#14180617
All this debate on national anarchism.

Let me explain national anarchism in simple terms.

Territoriality will always exist and is simply impossible to abolish not to mention undesirable also.

The national anarchist acknowledges this simple fact.

The national anarchist is a tribalist and a believer in the clan.

Even with decentralized native americans we see tribal territories and they were some of the most anarchist people in existence as all primitive but socially liberating tribes are.

The national anarchist believes in cultural, racial, and traditional preservation of their people because it's simply a unreasonable demand to tell people that they must give up on several thousand years of tradition to assimilate to some globally controlled bureaucracy.

A nation is merely the representation of ancient tribal territories conquered by statists into one giant solidified territory.
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By Eran
#14182824
The libertarian anarchist model (aka an-cap) allows, amongst many other things, the creation of national communities.

Without various anti-discrimination laws, nothing would stop a group of like-minded people from creating a close community, allowing only those additional members they approve of, and promoting whichever values or priorities they believe in.

With enough support in the population, this model of a pure nationality/race community may become very common.

Would that qualify as a "National Anarchist" society?
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Eran wrote:The libertarian anarchist model (aka an-cap) allows, amongst many other things, the creation of national communities.

Without various anti-discrimination laws, nothing would stop a group of like-minded people from creating a close community, allowing only those additional members they approve of, and promoting whichever values or priorities they believe in.

With enough support in the population, this model of a pure nationality/race community may become very common.

Would that qualify as a "National Anarchist" society?



I would think so, yes.
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JohannKaspurSchmidt wrote:Even with decentralized native americans we see tribal territories and they were some of the most anarchist people in existence as all primitive but socially liberating tribes are.


Well, they obviously faired well in the face of more modernly-organized European immigration...

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