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By Subversive Rob
#1899603
We're still at the early stage of the election. But what do you think? I have thought previously to propose some mild labour bills first as a symbolical gesture.


Sounds good. Given my brief I thought it might be a good idea to work with whoever is in charge of labour and devise a workplace arbitration system to deal with labour disputes.
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By ingliz
#1899610
I have posted some union recognition and bargaining legislation nicked from Manitoba, It will do depending how it is implemented. I will scout round and try and find it.
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By ingliz
#1899619
The Party list:

#1 Honi, Party Leader (RF) - Seated

#2 Subversive Rob(SN) - Seated

#3 ingliz(RF) - Seated

#4 Potemkin(SN) - Seated

#5 FallenRaptor(SN) - Seated

#6 Gletkin(RF) - Seated

#7 Vlad(SN) - Seated

#8 MistyTiger(SN) - Seated

#9 Albionfagan(RF) - Seated

#10 Holt(SN) - Seated

#11 Mazhi(SN)

We need more former RF members to step forward to serve the Party if balance is to be maintained.

4 RF: 6 SN

31 votes

Any objections make them known


Union Recognition & Bargaining Rights - Office of Labour and Union Affairs (for internal discussion purposes only)

The Union submits an Application for Certification to the PoFo Labour Board. If, as at the date of application, 40% or more of employees support the Union, the Board shall order a vote. If 65% or more sign a union card the Board will automatically certify the bargaining unit.

If a vote is ordered and If more than 50% of the votes are in favour of having a union, The Board will certify the Union.


Employers' Rights - It is an unfair labour practice for Employers to attempt to interfere with the formation or selection of a Union. However, Employers or managers are permitted to communicate statements of fact or opinions reasonably held with respect to the Employers business. On the day of the vote, neither the Union nor the Employer may, at the workplace or polling place distribute printed material or engage in electioneering for the purposes of influencing the vote.

Once certified a Union becomes the exclusive bargaining agent for all of the employees in the bargaining unit whether they are members of the Union or not. The Employer cannot settle wages and working conditions directly with the employees. The employer is required to negotiate only with the Union which has been certified and no other one. After certification a Union can, by notice, compel an Employer to meet and bargain a collective agreement.

-- Nicked from Manitoba, but I don't think anything more radical would have any chance of being voted through the House.

Your thoughts?
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By Demosthenes
#1899650
I wouldn't limit ourselves like that right off the bat, but I think a certain awareness of their...operating style is in order.

I wonder if Albianfagan (with apologies for spelling) might be interested in an MP position, he is RF, no?
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By HoniSoit
#1899656
I wouldn't limit ourselves like that right off the bat, but I think a certain awareness of their...operating style is in order.


Indeed. I won't rule out the possibility of working with THP on certain issues.

But they have appeared to be a bit random in their dealing with other parties. I mean you cannot establish an alliance and then simply vote to terminate alliance without even consulting us.

They need to prove themselves to be trustworthy if they want to be taken seriously.
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By Brio
#1899663
It looks like SN-RF is making a very strong showing so far. I would like to thank Honi and Ingliz in their work on getting out the vote, keep up the good work boys.

That is something I think was missing a bit last election; a really organized effort to get out the leftist vote.
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By HoniSoit
#1899669
I would also nominate Mazhi.

Brio - it's a loss for SN-RF that you're not taking up a position.
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By Brio
#1899680
I will take up a seat if all other SN-RF candidates that want a seat in government have one and their are still seats available. However, I think albionfagan if he accepts his nomination should get a seat (I think we only need one more vote) and Mazhi/Holt if they want one.

With great E-power comes great E-responsibility, and I am not sure I am always the most responsible individual.
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By ingliz
#1899682
Done

ps. Albion has the seat as only the total number of seats is worked by dividing by 3. The seats are apportioned by the d'Hondt calculus
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By HoniSoit
#1899691
Brio wrote:I will take up a seat if all other SN-RF candidates that want a seat in government have one and their are still seats available. However, I think albionfagan if he accepts his nomination should get a seat (I think we only need one more vote) and Mazhi/Holt if they want one.


The nomination is still subject to change. It's not final yet.

I think we may have enough seats for everyone who's willing to play the simulation.
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By Brio
#1900293
A new election. If you want to vote this thread is the place to do so. So far the SN-RF is leading all parties by a wide margin with 28 votes for. We would need 2 more votes for 10 seats in Parliament.
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By ingliz
#1900608
Dear THP,

viewtopic.php?p=1900584#p1900584

ps. Please abide by the "rules" of the game. This is the "Official SN-RF Party Thread (Members Only)" and so unless you are intending to join our Party and dump your membership it's bye bye. :)
By Watermoon
#1900622
HoniSoit is the party leader? What position Potemkin is? ;)

#1 Honi, Party Leader (RF)
#2 Subversive Rob(SN)
#3 ingliz(RF)
#4 Potemkin(SN)
#5 FallenRaptor(SN
#6 Gletkin(RF)
#7 Vlad(SN)
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By ingliz
#1900624
Minister of State, as are the rest, if we are in Government; MP if we are not. He is also Joint Deputy Leader of the Party, as I am, a purely administrative post dealing with internal Party matters and quite separate from his parliamentary duties.
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By HoniSoit
#1900719
A few ideas about how we our party should operate:

- Individual MP has the right to vote based on his or her judgement. As much as we would like to see party consensus, it should be arrived through discussion and compromise rather than party discipline. In short, the party leader cannot dictate how MPs vote.

- Members with dissenting opinions should speak out and no one should be punished because of difference of opinions.

- Internal party discussion is encouraged. Although there are only a limited number of MPs, everyone in the party should be encouraged to contribute ideas, and their opinions should be respected and taken in account when MPs deliberate and vote.

- While there would only be one MP for each portfolio, other members are encouraged to work with MPs to discuss and draft legislations. At this stage, we are still using previous list complied by ingliz regarding distribution of portfolios.
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By HoniSoit
#1900725
Yes - membership of the SN-RF is free. ;)

It's only that if you want to take up a seat as MP, you need be relatively active on PoFo.
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