- 24 Feb 2013 16:36
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Bolshevism was just one small part of communism. There's no reason to think that every revolution will be exact replica of 1917.
Of course we agree but its wishful thinking that proletarians can survive one day by giving up power just like that. This is not perfect but its much better as this "select group" is working for proletarian interest rather than bourgeoisie interest.
TCR covered it but I don't think above was for consumption of this middle class, obviously our propaganda directed to them will tell an entirely different story.
It doesn't really matter, we can be more authoritarian and less it all depends on the condition of the revolution.
Yes and this oppression is an useful tool for liquidating classes and class antagonism. If you don't keep power of the state, the enemy will gracefully accept this gift and we will be crushed in no time.Nothing beats organized power like that of state, why you want the most lethal weapon in history in the hands of only enemy?
As I said it doesn't matter what your ideology is as long as you are not threatening the power of proletarian state but by definition anarchists will defy and try to bring down the state, if they become serious enough threat like the Ukranian Black Army, harsh measures should indeed be considered.
Its not about killing an ideology but saving a revolutionary proletarian state.
Goldberk wrote:The means of production remain in the hands of a small group, a "ruling class", it is only through the abolition of authority that true emancipation can occur.
Of course we agree but its wishful thinking that proletarians can survive one day by giving up power just like that. This is not perfect but its much better as this "select group" is working for proletarian interest rather than bourgeoisie interest.
FRS wrote:Announcing this stated intention openly has never been a particularly great method for building middle class support, Fuser.
TCR covered it but I don't think above was for consumption of this middle class, obviously our propaganda directed to them will tell an entirely different story.
RT wrote:But you are just as authoritarian as the far right.
It doesn't really matter, we can be more authoritarian and less it all depends on the condition of the revolution.
You cannot wish to liberate the proletariat by structural division. The state needs to go, let go of it, it does nothing but oppress
Yes and this oppression is an useful tool for liquidating classes and class antagonism. If you don't keep power of the state, the enemy will gracefully accept this gift and we will be crushed in no time.Nothing beats organized power like that of state, why you want the most lethal weapon in history in the hands of only enemy?
What, are you going to send all anarchists to the gulag after the revolution?
As I said it doesn't matter what your ideology is as long as you are not threatening the power of proletarian state but by definition anarchists will defy and try to bring down the state, if they become serious enough threat like the Ukranian Black Army, harsh measures should indeed be considered.
You can't kill an ideology, but go ahead suppress all you want.
Its not about killing an ideology but saving a revolutionary proletarian state.
"Reason has always existed, but not always in a reasonable form." Karl Marx