[kateman]

It is WAR, if you cant protect your land, you lose it.

1) Mongols killed 1/4 of the world population. Mongols killed 50% of Chinese.
Genghis Khan's law, Killing a Chinese = killing a donkey.

2) Japan killed at least 30 million Chinese and other East Asian in WWII.
Manila massacre - Wikipedia
Nanking Massacre - Wikipedia

3) Ainu people were the first people in Japan.
The so called "Japanese" invaded Japan.
Ainu people were killed or enslaved.
Ainu people - Wikipedia

4) Blacks were the first people in China.
The Yellows came later and killed the blacks.

“There is evidence of substantial populations of Blacks in early China..."
-- K. C Chang, The Archaeology of Ancient China, Yale University Press.

5) Chinese ate and traded in the flesh of Taiwanese aboriginals.
Cannibalism, Wikipedia

In honor of the Little Black People - Taipei Times
(Taipei, the capital of Taiwan)


6) American Indians were not the first people in America.

The first people in America were Australoids.
Luzia Woman - Wikipedia

The Australoids were almost exterminated in the Americas by the Mongoloids.

7) Arabs invaded black Africa
There were 10 to 20 million black slaves in the Arab world.
There were over 80 million Blacks died en route.
Black boys had their scrotums and penises completely amputated.

8) Blacks invaded Spain.
Spanish were enslaved by blacks for 700 years.
Moorish ruled Spain, 711-1492.
Islam in Spain - Wikipedia

Spanish were white slaves and are dark people now.



9) Mongols, Huns, Turks invaded Europe
European army defeated Muslim army at the gate of Vienna.
Siege of Vienna - Wikipedia

10) The percentage of African American serial killers is 40.3%.
Serial killer, Wikipedia

43% of murders committed in the US were committed by blacks.
FBI Uniform Crime reports. 2010-2014.

Chicago: 71% of Murderers are Black

New York, if there are only whites, the murder and rape rates will both go down to 10%.
Race-Based Crime Statistics released by NYPD for 2012


38% of police killers are blacks.
FBI report, Officers Feloniously Killed, Profile of alleged known assailants.
https://www.fbi.gov/

Blacks killed by blacks: 90 percent.
FBI, Uniform Crime Reports data, for 2014

11) Civil wars In Africa, in Asia.
11.1)Africa
1,000,000 people were killed during 100 days, constituting as many as 70% of the Tutsi and 20% of Rwanda's total population.
Rwandan genocide - Wikipedia


11.2) China had many civil wars in its history.
There were 4 Chinese civil wars in the the last about 100 years.

Dungan Revolt (1862–77)
8–12 million dead
Dungan Revolt , Wikipedia

Taiping Rebellion,
20–30 million dead (best estimate).
Highest estimate: 100,000,000 Chinese dead.
Taiping Rebellion, Wikipedia


Chinese civil just before WW2
million military casualties

Chinese civil just after WW2
6 million dead
Chinese Civil War, Wikipedia

+ Cultural Revolution
Estimates of the death toll, including civilians and Red Guards, vary greatly.They range upwards to several millions, but an estimate of around 400,000 deaths is a widely accepted minimum figure.
Cultural Revolution - Wikipedia



In a number of Chinese civil wars, Chinese killed over 50% of their own people.

12) The liberals say that whites destroyed the beautiful native cultures.

12.1) Cannibalism

(a) Till 1900, in China, a death row inmate would be chopped into 1000 pieces.
(Death by a Thousand Cuts (book) - Wikipedia)
Lingchi - Wikipedia


Liu was executed by death by a thousand cuts.
Onlookers bought a piece of his flesh for one qian (the smallest currency at the time) and consumed it with rice wine.
Liu Jin - Wikipedia

Yuan was executed by death by a thousand cuts.
Many Beijing residents rushed to buy his body parts so they could eat them as soon as the body parts were sliced off from his body...
Yuan Chonghuan - Wikipedia

(b) When Japanese, Mongols, Manchus inavded China, they all ate human fresh there.

Japs also killed and consumed some American in WWII.
Chichijima incident, Wikipedia

(c) Some Chinese gerenals oredred their soliders
to ate human fresh as daily meal.
Huang Chao used hundreds of stone mortars to grind human flesh.
Massacres in ancient history | The World of Chinese
Huang Chao, , Wikipedia,

Zhu had some 200,000 men, Zhu then encouraged his soldiers to eat women and infants, stating, "Human flesh is the most delicious flesh. As long as there are people around, we need not worry about hunger."
Zhu Can , Wikipedia,

12.2) Human sacrifice
In the New World, human sacrifice continued until the European colonization of the Americas.
The number of persons sacrificed in central Mexico in the 15th century as high as 250,000 per year.
One in five children of the Mexica subjects was killed annually.

In China, human sacrifice continued until Manchuria conquered China.
(Manchus ruled China for 300 years till 1911.
Manchu conquest of China - Wikipedia)
Human sacrifice - Wikipedia

[mikema63]

Tl;Dr humans are historically shit to one another so we should purposly pursue shit policies and white supremacy in the future.

[jakell]

Well, the concept itself isn't idiotic, just the massively over-inflated insistence of it, which is very likely how most people have come across the term.

If we are to respect our ancestor's achievements, then it is realistic to be cogniscent of their shortcomings too. What needs to happen is to then move on and not let it develop into an eternal running sore, which is how the concept tends to be misused nowadays.

[kateman]

Tl;Dr humans are historically shit to one another so we should purposly pursue shit policies and white supremacy in the future.

You believe in ""white guilt" .
You should be a loser in the next war.
Then you can really say sorry to others.

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1) When Japanese, Mongols, Manchus inavded China, they all ate human fresh there.

Japs also killed and consumed some American in WWII.
Chichijima incident, Wikipedia

2) Some Chinese gerenals oredred their soliders
to ate human fresh as daily meal.

Huang Chao used hundreds of stone mortars to grind human flesh.
Massacres in ancient history | The World of Chinese
Huang Chao, , Wikipedia,

Zhu had some 200,000 men, Zhu then encouraged his soldiers to eat women and infants, stating, "Human flesh is the most delicious flesh. As long as there are people around, we need not worry about hunger."
Zhu Can , Wikipedia,

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After you get re-educated by those highly civilized people, you will fully understand what is "white guilt".

[jakell]

Well, the concept itself isn't idiotic, just the massively over-inflated insistence of it, which is very likely how most people have come across the term.

If we are to respect our ancestor's achievements, then it is realistic to be cogniscent of their shortcomings too. What needs to happen is to then move on and not let it develop into an eternal running sore, which is how the concept tends to be misused nowadays.

On reflection, the use of the word 'white' makes it unwieldy and it makes more sense to consider the history of nations, if said nation no longer exists though then it becomes more complicated.

For instance, I'm British and consider what we did to the Boers pretty much a low point, not much to be proud of there, on the upside, I'm quite pleased that we actively (ie, not passively) ended slavery where we had sufficient influence. Swings and roundabouts.
I feel no guilt about the Boers BTW, it's history.

@Kateman.. twice now you've talked of the Chinese eating human fresh. Is that intended as a joke?

[The Immortal Goon]

I'm of Irish extraction. The glorious whites in Britain never did my people any favors. Why should I do what you say and start cheering them on, if I'm supposed to hold onto this interpretation of the past?

Nah, I'll do what my people have always done: drink too much and fuck everyone of any race that will have me.

[kateman]

On reflection, the use of the word 'white' makes it unwieldy and it makes more sense to consider the history of nations, if said nation no longer exists though then it becomes more complicated.

For instance, I'm British and consider what we did to the Boers pretty much a low point, not much to be proud of there, on the upside, I'm quite pleased that we actively (ie, not passively) ended slavery where we had sufficient influence. Swings and roundabouts.
I feel no guilt about the Boers BTW, it's history.

@Kateman.. twice now you've talked of the Chinese eating human fresh. Is that intended as a joke?

twice now you've talked of the Chinese eating human fresh. Is that intended as a joke?[

I listed the facts and the references, Almost all historians and history students know those fact well.

Liu was executed by death by a thousand cuts.
Onlookers bought a piece of his flesh for one qian (the smallest currency at the time) and consumed it with rice wine.
Liu Jin - Wikipedia

[kateman]

jakell: twice now you've talked of the Chinese eating human fresh. Is that intended as a joke?
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It is 100% true, All historians know that well.

China was very backward in history.




1) China entered metal age 1000 years later than Middle East, Europe, South Asia.
Bronze Age, Wikipedia

2) China entered Iron age 600 years later than Europe and Near East.
At the time, European used iron tools, Chinese used primitive tools.
Iron Age - Wikipedia

3) Glass was invented 5500 years ago, it was before the Chinese history.
History of glass, Wikipedia

4) When European and Middle Eastern built stone/brick houses, Chinese kings lived in a mud palace.
The Great Pyramid of Giza was built 4500 years ago.

Erlitou, the capital of China(2100 BC – 1600 BC) was built by mud.
Erlitou culture - Wikipedia

5)Cannibalism in China

5.1) Chinese in Taiwan ate and traded in the flesh of Taiwanese aboriginals.
Cannibalism, Wikipedia

5.2)Till 1900, in China, a death row inmate would be chopped into 1000 pieces.
(Death by a Thousand Cuts (book) - Wikipedia)
Lingchi - Wikipedia


Liu was executed by death by a thousand cuts.
Onlookers bought a piece of his flesh for one qian (the smallest currency at the time) and consumed it with rice wine.
Liu Jin - Wikipedia

Yuan was executed by death by a thousand cuts.
Many Beijing residents rushed to buy his body parts so they could eat them as soon as the body parts were sliced off from his body...
Yuan Chonghuan - Wikipedia


5.3) When Japanese, Mongols, Manchus inavded China, they all ate human fresh there.

Japs also killed and consumed some American in WWII.
Chichijima incident, Wikipedia

Some Chinese gerenals oredred their soliders to ate human fresh as daily meal.
Huang Chao used hundreds of stone mortars to grind human flesh.
Massacres in ancient history | The World of Chinese
Huang Chao, , Wikipedia,

Zhu had some 200,000 men, Zhu then encouraged his soldiers to eat women and infants, stating, "Human flesh is the most delicious flesh. As long as there are people around, we need not worry about hunger."
Zhu Can , Wikipedia,

5.4) Cannibalism in China. by Key Ray Chong, Longwood Academic
Daughter Of The River, by Hong Ying ( Some Cannibalism facts)

[anasawad]

I assume you're Americans.
Don't worry about China being backward in history (its not).
Its still going to fuck you in the ass. (i.e Americans)

[kateman]

anasawad
I assume you're Americans.
Don't worry about China being backward in history (its not).
Its still going to fuck you in the ass. (i.e Americans)
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You must be a Chinese, Chinese have a big mouth.
Manchus had the right of the first night in China. LMAOx
I guess your own get xxxxx

1) China was enslaved by Mongol, Manchu, Xianbei, Khitan, Jurchen Empires for over 1000 years.
Genghis Khan's law, Killing a Chinese = killing a donkey.
Mongols killed 50% of Chinese.

2)At the time of Marco Polo, 100 million Chinese were enslaved by 300,000 Mongols.



3)Before Mongols, China was enslaved by Jurchen for about 100 years.
Men of Chinese royal family were sold into slavery in exchange for horses with a ratio of ten men for one horse.
Chinese Queen was forced to work in whore house.
Jingkang Incident - Wikipedia

4) China was ruled by Manchus for 300 years till 1911.
The population rate was 1 million Manchus VS 100 million Chinese.
Manchu conquest of China - Wikipedia

Manchus had the right of the first night in China.

Queue Order
When the Manchus defeated China, Chinese men were forced to wear a queue or they would be killed.


Chinese slaves
Millions Chinese were sold by Manchus as slaves to many countries.
Chinese slaves were called as Coolie or piglets.
Seventy-five percent of the Chinese coolies in Cuba died before fulfilling their contracts.
More than two-thirds of the Chinese coolies who arrived in Peru died within the contract period.
Coolie - Wikipedia


5)In WWII, Japan invaded China, Japan took the Chinese capital and lost only 2000 soldiers.
Battle of Nanking, Wikipedia
Nanking Massacre , Wikipedia

6) Russia and USA saved China in WWII.
USA killed 1 million Japanese soldiers and lost 100,000.

Russia defeated 800,000 Japanese soldiers. and lost 10,000 soldiers.
Soviet invasion of Manchuria - Wikipedia

[kateman]

I assume you're Americans.
Don't worry about China being backward in history (its not).
Its still going to fuck you in the ass. (i.e Americans)

-------------
"Don't worry about China being backward in history" (its not).

1) China entered metal age 1000 years later than Middle East, Europe, South Asia.
Bronze Age, Wikipedia

2) China entered Iron age 600 years later than Europe and Near East.
At the time, European used iron tools, Chinese used primitive tools.
Iron Age - Wikipedia

3) Glass was invented 5500 years ago, it was before the Chinese history.
History of glass, Wikipedia

4) When European and Middle Eastern built stone/brick houses, Chinese kings lived in a mud palace.
The Great Pyramid of Giza was built 4500 years ago.

Erlitou, the capital of China(2100 BC – 1600 BC) was built by mud.
Erlitou culture - Wikipedia


5) All Chinese inventions are jokes.

5.1) Middle East invented writing 5000 years ago.
Middle East invented printing 5000 years ago.
It was before the Chinese history.


Johannes Gutenberg invented Printing press, (the machine).


5.2) Greece invented gunpowder.
Greek fire, its chief ingredient was saltpeter and sulfur, making it an early form of gunpowder.

China was ruled by Manchurian tribe for 300 years till 1911.
The population rate was 1 million Manchus VS 100 million Chinese.
Manchu conquest of China - Wikipedia

Manchus had the right of the first night in China.
Queue Order
When the Manchus defeated China, Chinese men were forced to wear a queue or they would be killed.



5.3) Italy invented the compass.
The pointer of the ancient Chinese compass was as big as a spoon.
The spoon was put on a board, with nothing else.
Compass, Wikipedia
History of the compass, Wikipedia, (Chinese Compass "Si Nan", photo)


6) Till today, all Chinese inventions are jokes.
Chinese microchip
The chip was later revealed to be a duplicate of a chip developed in the West, with the original identifications sanded away.
Hanxin - Wikipedia

[kateman]

I assume you're Americans.
Don't worry about China being backward in history (its not).
Its still going to fuck you in the ass. (i.e Americans)

anasawad: Its still going to fuck you in the ass. (i.e Americans)
............................................................................
What a big mouth? whose ass get fucked??


1) China was enslaved by Mongol, Manchu, Xianbei, Khitan, Jurchen Empires for over 1000 years.
Genghis Khan's law, Killing a Chinese = killing a donkey.
Mongols killed 50% of Chinese.

At the time of Marco Polo, 100 million Chinese were enslaved by 300,000 Mongols.


2)Before Mongols, China was enslaved by Jurchen for about 100 years.
Men of Chinese royal family were sold into slavery in exchange for horses with a ratio of ten men for one horse.
Chinese Queen was forced to work in whore house.
Jingkang Incident - Wikipedia


3) China was ruled by Manchus for 300 years till 1911.
The population rate was 1 million Manchus VS 100 million Chinese.
Manchu conquest of China - Wikipedia

Manchus had the right of the first night in China.

Queue Order
When the Manchus defeated China, Chinese men were forced to wear a queue or they would be killed.


4) In WWII, Japan invaded China, Japan took the Chinese capital and lost only 2000 soldiers.
Battle of Nanking, Wikipedia
Nanking Massacre , Wikipedia

The Rape of Nanking (book) - Wikipedia

5)USA saved China in WWII.
USA killed 1 million Japanese soldiers and lost 100,000.

6)China Vs USA in Korean war.
400,000 Chinese soldiers died.
Korea war, Wikipedia


anasawad, whose ass get fucked?

[Igor Antunov]

kateman you're spamming this thread. Learn to forum.

[anasawad]

'm not CChinese.
And ? i guessing by your posts that if a nation went through a period of weakness while surviving for thousands of years that means its backward ?
Every nation goes through those periodically every few centuries. Its how the world always works.
They still made it and still have a name for them selves.
While you guys are,well, currently the laughing stock of the world.
Your reputation circiles between being a mockery of the world to being the savages of the world.
I wont consider that a good thing.


Ooh and BTW.
The population of China through the Mongol period was less than 50 million in overall. And the Mongols didn't enslave everyone they conquered.

The Manchu people don't actually exist. Its the name Japanese people called the region not the actual name nor is it known to Chinese people.
The region along with the rest of China was always historically part of China or atleast a good portion of it.
Thus the people in it, are Chinese. As you might know if you held a map, China is big, and it had many rivalry over the rule between different dynasties and kingdoms within it over many centuries. Until the Qin dynasty came along and united all the ethnicities and kingdoms of China and it remained as that for most of history since then With Dynasties from all corners of the region ruling one after anther.

Xianbei, Khitan, Jurchen are ethnic and cultural groups that for mos of history were part of China and heavily integrated in it.
And they all live in the region we foreigners call manchuria so its not a bright thing to mention them after mentioning the Manchu.


For whos ass is getting fucked. Currently its the American. Since China owns around 20% of all economic assets in the US, and currently hold you by the nick in trade.
Its actually getting deeper by the day.


EDIT:
For the first post you made.
Gun powder was actually invented in China, then Persians followed by Arabs then Turks then Europeans took it.

The manchu thing having first night right. Actually this whole first night thing only existed in Europe with no other culture ever to have it.
And if Chinese tech is a joke, then you, The "superior" Americans must atleast be capable of beating them in something.
But since you cant, then i assume if their's is a joke then yours is just shit.

[kateman]

The Manchu people don't actually exist. Its the name Japanese people called the region not the actual name nor is it known to Chinese people.
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Sir, you are not smart. You only can fool fools as you.
You want to re-write world history? lol

1) China was ruled by Manchus for 300 years till 1911.
The population rate was 1 million Manchus VS 100 million Chinese.
Manchu conquest of China - Wikipedia

Manchus had the right of the first night in China.

2) In WWII, Japan invaded China, Japan took the Chinese capital and lost only 2000 soldiers.
Battle of Nanking, Wikipedia
Nanking Massacre , Wikipedia
The Rape of Nanking (book) - Wikipedia


And till now, I think it is you azz get fucked all the time.

Chinese genocide in South East Asia.
At least 1,000,000 Chinese were killed.

13 May Incident - Wikipedia, In Malaysia

Indonesian killings of 1965–66 - Wikipedia
countless Chinese women get xxxxx.

May 1998 riots of Indonesia - Wikipedia
Sangley Rebellion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, in Philippines.


+ Chinese Vietnam war in 1979

"China's twenty-nine-day incursion into Vietnam in February 1979 ... failed to dispel the image of China as a paper tiger."
Chinese Invasion of Vietnam – February 1979 - GlobalSecurity.org

[redcarpet]

Not at all.

I'd say it's an ideological weapon for the anti-racism position.

And it works. Right-wing racists know they will look stupid if they vacillate (which many do anyway) about Western imperialism's crimes. Because they are known facts and you look like you're justifying them if you squirm or 'get defensive'.

The Right are stupid if they enter the 'race debate' by advocating even half-persecutory policies. Trump and others in the USA don't care, even though it only drives down public support because they only care about the GOP redneck support, nor the Far-Right generally.

The 'political correctness' complaining dents the wall of credibility a little, but not totally. Because we know what the point is. They want to be able to be openly racist. Just as religious fundamentalists hate living in secular societies and are restrained, because they know that if they go on their rants they'll look stupid. Not that all care of course.....

[anasawad]

Manchuria (Manchu: ᠮᠠᠨᠵᡠ; romanised: manju; simplified Chinese: 满洲; traditional Chinese: 滿洲; pinyin: Mǎnzhōu) is a modern name, first created by Japanese,[2][3] given to a large geographic region in Northeast Asia. Depending on the context, Manchuria can either refer to a region that falls entirely within the People's Republic of China,[4][5][6] or a larger region divided between China and Russia. The region that falls entirely within modern China is now usually referred to as Northeast China (simplified Chinese: 东北; traditional Chinese: 東北; pinyin: Dōngběi) in China, although "Manchuria" is widely used outside of China to denote the geographical and historical region. This region is the traditional homeland of the Xianbei, Khitan, and Jurchen (later called Manchu) peoples, who built several states historically, although no term for "Manchuria" exists in the Manchu language,[7] which originally referred to the area as the "Three Eastern Provinces".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchuria

So, the area was known as "three eastern provinces". I wonder provinces of what.

Here is the map of China through history. That includes all the Chinese nations once seperated.
Can you guess what that little extention north east in the map is ?

[kateman]

'm not CChinese.
And ? i guessing by your posts that if a nation went through a period of weakness while surviving for thousands of years that means its backward ?
Every nation goes through those periodically every few centuries. Its how the world always works.
They still made it and still have a name for them selves.
While you guys are,well, currently the laughing stock of the world.
Your reputation circiles between being a mockery of the world to being the savages of the world.
I wont consider that a good thing.


Ooh and BTW.
The population of China through the Mongol period was less than 50 million in overall. And the Mongols didn't enslave everyone they conquered.

The Manchu people don't actually exist. Its the name Japanese people called the region not the actual name nor is it known to Chinese people.
The region along with the rest of China was always historically part of China or atleast a good portion of it.
Thus the people in it, are Chinese. As you might know if you held a map, China is big, and it had many rivalry over the rule between different dynasties and kingdoms within it over many centuries. Until the Qin dynasty came along and united all the ethnicities and kingdoms of China and it remained as that for most of history since then With Dynasties from all corners of the region ruling one after anther.

Xianbei, Khitan, Jurchen are ethnic and cultural groups that for mos of history were part of China and heavily integrated in it.
And they all live in the region we foreigners call manchuria so its not a bright thing to mention them after mentioning the Manchu.


For whos ass is getting fucked. Currently its the American. Since China owns around 20% of all economic assets in the US, and currently hold you by the nick in trade.
Its actually getting deeper by the day.


EDIT:
For the first post you made.
Gun powder was actually invented in China, then Persians followed by Arabs then Turks then Europeans took it.

The manchu thing having first night right. Actually this whole first night thing only existed in Europe with no other culture ever to have it.
And if Chinese tech is a joke, then you, The "superior" Americans must atleast be capable of beating them in something.
But since you cant, then i assume if their's is a joke then yours is just shit.

The manchu thing having first night right. Actually this whole first night thing only existed in Europe with no other culture ever to have it.
And if Chinese tech is a joke, then you, The "superior" Americans must atleast be capable of beating them in something.
But since you cant, then i assume if their's is a joke then yours is just shit.
...................................

Sir, you are fooling yourself to save your face.

Manchus not only had the right of the first night in China.
They also ate Chinese, as Japs did in China.

1) China was ruled by Manchus for 300 years till 1911.
The population rate was 1 million Manchus VS 100 million Chinese.
Manchu conquest of China - Wikipedia

Manchus had the right of the first night in China.

Queue Order
When the Manchus defeated China, Chinese men were forced to wear a queue or they would be killed.


Chinese slaves
Millions Chinese were sold by Manchus as slaves to many countries.
Chinese slaves were called as Coolie or piglets.
Seventy-five percent of the Chinese coolies in Cuba died before fulfilling their contracts.
More than two-thirds of the Chinese coolies who arrived in Peru died within the contract period.
Coolie - Wikipedia

It was like

2) Before Mongols, China was enslaved by Jurchen for about 100 years.
Men of Chinese royal family were sold into slavery in exchange for horses with a ratio of ten men for one horse.
Chinese Queen was forced to work in whore house.
Jingkang Incident - Wikipedia


And America beat China shit out in Korea.

China Vs USA
China lost 400,000.
Korea war, Wiki

[kateman]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchuria

So, the area was known as "three eastern provinces". I wonder provinces of what.

Here is the map of China through history. That includes all the Chinese nations once seperated.
Can you guess what that little extention north east in the map is ?

hahah, What a big mouth, I feel sorry for you, 3000 years!!!!!!!!

1)Glass was invented 5500 years ago, it was before the Chinese history.
History of glass, Wikipedia


2) China entered metal age 1000 years later than Middle East, Europe, South Asia.
Bronze Age, Wikipedia

3) China entered Iron age 600 years later than Europe and Near East.
At the time, European used iron tools, Chinese used primitive tools.
Iron Age - Wikipedia


4) When European and Middle Eastern built stone/brick houses, Chinese kings lived in a mud palace.
The Great Pyramid of Giza was built 4500 years ago.

Erlitou, the capital of China(2100 BC – 1600 BC) was built by mud. (LMAO)
Erlitou culture - Wikipedia

[Zagadka]

So by Kateman logic, Babylon is the best civilization ever and everyone should follow them.

"White guilt" is indeed an idiotic concept, as are most racial distinctions. I'm not even going to bother comparing the advances of China with the west or middle east or whatever. Pointless to even talk about it.