- 20 Nov 2023 09:03
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Why, joining the west.
Worked nicely for Ukraine. Population estimated to be 20 million and falling now, the economy is completely bust and if everything continues as it looks like in the USA, will soon completely collapse thanks to the lack of workers and funding, and what happends to the country will in the end be decided by Russia, because neither the USA nor Ukraine itself is able to negotiate. Ukrainian politicians who would attempt to do so would be murdered by ukrainian nazis, and US politicians are simply unable to comprehend that they have lost in Ukraine and only make bullshit offers.
As I said in the other thread, judging by Putins recent statements, currently it looks like Russia will more parts of Ukraine as its own - i.e. the parts dominated by ethnic russians - and leave the rest to its fate by its western masters. Where the west is already waiting, because the USA hasnt actually gifted its weapons to Ukraine.
(Europe of course did gift everything they gave, and Europe already stands by to rebuild Ukraine, with von der Leyen saying they want to spent 1 trillion euro on that. Isnt the EU a nice colony of the USA, making sure Blackrock actually has something to exploit from the rubble thats called Ukraine).
If I was an ukrainian, I'd hope that Russia take over the whole country, and do to it what Russia did to Crimea - build it up to the same standards as the rest of Russia. But all ukrainians I see on the internet seem to want to join the west.
Will work nicely for the Republic of China, if all things work out like the neocons want. Of course in that case we already know the People's Republic of China wont leave anything left of its alternative policial system for the US to exploit. But the USA is actually arming the Republic of China and so there are madmen who want to fight against their mainland people despite the absurdly high power inbalance in their disfavor.
But who knows. The chinese are known to be nifty. So maybe they will just join mainland without a fight when they come knocking.
So why shouldnt it also help destroy Armenia ? I see no flaw in this plan. Let the people fall for the lies of the west, and be surprised how suddenly their wealth goes all out of the window, into the pockets of US oligarchs. Its really like magic.
Writing this of course from Germany, where even officials have now started to talk about deindustrialization. Thanks to the USA blowing up the Nordstream pipeline, prices go through the roof in every regard, but especially also for energy and food.
We, the west, are the good guys. It has to be true. Hollywood tells us so. Everyone else is a horrible "autocrat". Which means they are trying to become economically independent from us.
There's class warfare, all right, but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning. - Warren Buffett
Yeah and like the Syrian Kurds and the Afghan Northern Alliance, I suspect some of them have already come to rue their choice. The fundamental problem for the Armenians was that Putin was far too soft hearted in his dealings with Georgians. Military access through and in Georgia should have been a non negotiable condition of any cease fire agreement in the 2008 war.
- By Rancid