- 03 Dec 2021 14:58
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The USA is in free fall as a superpower. Russia and China are playing our dysfunctional government like a cheap guitar. Now this week we find out that our vaunted technological advantage failed us again. Trump dropped the ball and Biden is not picking it up, it would appear.
Having said that. It is a mistake to think that this debate has anything at all to do with babies, fetuses, Planned Parenthood, or the like. It doesn't matter at all to those who can affect change either way. It is purely a political question.
The right has added to their groupies gun nuts, climate deniers, and anti-abortion single issue voters. (Among others.) These folks will vote for all Republican candidates because of their one issue and never anyone else. That is why you have people resorting to all kinds of ducking and dodging to somehow justify Trump as a good choice for president. He dog whistles the shit out of them. And frankly, when it comes to guns and abortion, his two choices for SCOTUS are going to pay off.
There is no "left" in the US. There really are not many liberals. These are terms the right has imposed on Democrats who belong to a center right party. Minorities are NOT less likely to vote for an anti abortion candidate. Gallup says that 50% of non-white Americans identify as pro-choice. Not nearly a big enough number. Women do identify as Democrats more frequently than men do by a few percent but women are notoriously unreliable voters. (Black women did the party proud in 2020 but who knows in the mid terms.)
For those in the courts and in government abortion is just another political calculation. We have representative government and they will follow the money/votes. As it should be.
Besides. Democrats are a complete disaster when it comes to messaging. They have no "heart strings" issues. And you have to admit that there is no greater heart-string issue than the killing of what a great many people call babies.
Godstud wrote:@Unthinking Majority Being pro-choice is not baby hating. I see you are indeed living up to your name in the "unthinking" part.
USA is likely going to step back 50 years and become a theocracy. Have fun, idiots!
USA USA USA!
The USA is in free fall as a superpower. Russia and China are playing our dysfunctional government like a cheap guitar. Now this week we find out that our vaunted technological advantage failed us again. Trump dropped the ball and Biden is not picking it up, it would appear.
Having said that. It is a mistake to think that this debate has anything at all to do with babies, fetuses, Planned Parenthood, or the like. It doesn't matter at all to those who can affect change either way. It is purely a political question.
The right has added to their groupies gun nuts, climate deniers, and anti-abortion single issue voters. (Among others.) These folks will vote for all Republican candidates because of their one issue and never anyone else. That is why you have people resorting to all kinds of ducking and dodging to somehow justify Trump as a good choice for president. He dog whistles the shit out of them. And frankly, when it comes to guns and abortion, his two choices for SCOTUS are going to pay off.
There is no "left" in the US. There really are not many liberals. These are terms the right has imposed on Democrats who belong to a center right party. Minorities are NOT less likely to vote for an anti abortion candidate. Gallup says that 50% of non-white Americans identify as pro-choice. Not nearly a big enough number. Women do identify as Democrats more frequently than men do by a few percent but women are notoriously unreliable voters. (Black women did the party proud in 2020 but who knows in the mid terms.)
For those in the courts and in government abortion is just another political calculation. We have representative government and they will follow the money/votes. As it should be.
Besides. Democrats are a complete disaster when it comes to messaging. They have no "heart strings" issues. And you have to admit that there is no greater heart-string issue than the killing of what a great many people call babies.
To believe in God is impossible not to believe in Him is absurd.
Voltaire
God is a comedian playing to an audience that is afraid to laugh.
Voltaire
Voltaire
God is a comedian playing to an audience that is afraid to laugh.
Voltaire