annatar1914 wrote:By the way, what is an American Indian, with Pre Columbian roots, to make of Modernity and being " Othered" on their own land? Is this the edge of the world to them as well? From what I know, they are stranger to the whole Narrative but have internalized it. Same likewise with the descendants of imported Slaves: what is their place, their ontological center? Is this part or whole of the reasons for conflict within New World societies?
Each human being is capable of their own thinking, they have intellect and moral will. A good man is someone with a strong intellect guided by their moral will, that is to say a person who can discern right from wrong and has the strength to be a good person based on such an understanding. Every American is capable of thinking about the world around them and drawing their own conclusions about it. They can then decide how to relate to this world and choose what ideological thinking suits them best, they can analyse and understand, feel with their heart what is right and wrong. A narrative imposed on them is not necessarily the one they have to believe in, and this is the same in any country. It's not only the smaller nationalities within the United States that can choose to reject or accept the established narratie of their state, even Americans of an Anglo-Saxon background have intellect and moral will. Why then do the American people, as people everywhere, seem for the most part incapable of critical thinking?
Do you believe a person can choose their ontological centre? Perhaps not, in my personal view, but at the very least I think mankind is capable of making a collective choice. So often I'm struck by how differently my compatriots see the world and how everyone speaks in pre-fabricated ideological verbiage. The runaway social liberalism, materialism and missionary zeal with which Westerners want to spread their civilisation is surely all choice to a large extent. Why then do they choose this particular narrative?
annatar1914 wrote:It is indeed an irony and an inverted reality when you have American " Christians" who oddly appear to restore Jerusalem to the center of their Eschatological cosmos, but in practice make America and its iteration
of Western civilization the central axis around which their world turns
The need to make America the centre of global civilisation is very strange. What about America makes it more naturally suited to being the world anchor, I can't think of very much. It's history only began in the Early Modern period, it's civilisation came from somewhere else. This is not to put down America or Americans, but why would we pick America to be the leader of Western civilisation and not Australia or Brazil? Perhaps they claim it's because America is the most free, the arsenal of democracy and has a responsibility to protect global democracy. They possess a notion of a civilising mission, to convert the world to democracy and liberal social values. The world does not want to be converted, the world will take from America what they see useful to themselves, but the Americans and collective West won't teach this to them by coercion. I think the Americans would do well to borrow from other civilisations as well.
If I were American I would not want to be the centre of Western civilisation or the world, I'd be quite content living in some small overcast grey town just living my quiet life. In my perception I see emigration from Old World to New World as a way of living an émigré existence in a new land, to maintain one's heritage in a new country while being loyal to the new land and supporting it in maintaining its own culture and traditions. In countries like the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Latin America the Europeans should have a duty of pastoral care towards the native peoples.
annatar1914 wrote:But America, the entire New World, never appears to be the center of the cosmic drama of Monotheism, despite the attempts of Mormonism to make it so. Is it possible that to an true American, the only worldview that makes sense from a Modern perspective is the essentially Luciferian ( or Mormon) one? What is the true perception of space and time in this context of the Real, the Modern or the Pre Modern? What for example is the role of America in the mental topography of a devout Muslim from the Old World in the present day?
I believe the true America is a land of good and honest people, they work hard and want the highest good. However, the Americans became deceived by excesses and need to rediscover themselves again. Why in America do we see the worst cultural excesses? I don't know. We know there are many good Americans and that the best American is not what we see in the media.
And to that end Americans need to start seeing themselves through the eyes of others, they need to start thinking of how the Old World Muslim sees them and start caring about it. Americans and the other Westerners need to learn to think once more! Think deeply about who they are, who they want to be and to pursue the highest good.
annatar1914 wrote:Is America being " Othered" in reaction along with the West as a whole out of some ontological necessity of universal human value and concern? Is this the reason for the significant antipathy between America and the Islamic Republic of Iran? China and Russia versus America? The shuddering fear and hysteria of recent years seems to bear it out.
A lot of Westerners fail to understand how they are perceived by the others, and how excessive many elements of the contemporary Western culture appear to peoples in the rest of the world.
annatar1914 wrote:Furthermore, is this the real root of the present day Syrian and Ukrainian conflict? How odd can it be, as another example, to have American troops in Syria in the manner that they are? And Russian, even, as an extension (because of Petrinism) of the Western world? It certainly appears that those old Western colonies, the American Republic, are now colonizing the whole World.
There's definitely an element of this, the East is starting to find the West too much and not wanting much to do with it. Many Westerners are naïve when it comes to differences in values, and this is not on the basis of something immutable, but on the basis of a collective choice Western civilisation is making together. The controversy over the World Cup in Qatar has been particularly interesting in this regard.
annatar1914 wrote:Either America becomes the center of a World Government and Planetary Civilization, the Culmination of Copernican and every other Modern Revolution, the " End of History ", or it doesn't.
The Americans need to relax and stop thinking they need an empire, the entire American culture needs to just calm down and go back to being itself once more. There's a definite element of mania in America at the moment, at least that's the way it comes across to a foreigner who's never been there. It's like the Americans are a little crazy, but out of their own confusion. It's as though they are in some type of massive existential confusion. A lot of other Western countries are similar, however.