- 05 May 2024 22:07
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This is from your own source:
So the UN hasn't found anything thus far, actually.
It seems @Pants-of-dog is wrong about whatever he was saying about the UN.
Why don't you do the job of searching for the response yourself?
Can we do this with global warming too?
I'm still waiting for you to prove their hands were bound.
I've yet to see anyone using wristbands to bind hands.
Those photos were also made public by Israel.
And you don't need to tag Israel on PoFo, Twitter has rotten your mind est too much.
The Times of Israel is not owned by the Israeli government. It's not even pro-Netanyahu.
You're just making shit up.
...And on the Russian payroll
Still showing your lies and double standards I see. I mean, you didn't even address my argument at all.
Finkelstein didn't demolish anything. This is becoming desperate and hilarious
Stop your bullshit legal analysis.
...A rape that was a direct result of the kidnapping on October 7.
"Obvious agitator" = British Jew wanting to exercise his rights.
And Hamas is trying hard to get Israel to leave as part of a ceasefire because it can't last indefinitely.
Fatah actually blames Hamas for this fiasco.
It's not made up, actually.
IIRC the situation has improved somewhat since then. But Christians are certainly not in equal footing with Muslims.
Any groups using terrorism would indeed be demonized. Hamas is the most important one now.
Those socialists have little power nowadays, but sure, they can meet Hamas' fate too.
ingliz wrote:@wat0n
The United Nations Human Rights office has reported that there is evidence of torture and executions by Israeli forces and signs that some of the victims were buried alive in the mass graves.
This is from your own source:
The United Nations human rights chief, Volker Turk, called for an “independent, effective and transparent investigations” into the deaths.
“Hospitals are entitled to very special protection under international humanitarian law, and the intentional killing of civilians, detainees and others who are hors de combat is a war crime,” Turk said this week.
So the UN hasn't found anything thus far, actually.
It seems @Pants-of-dog is wrong about whatever he was saying about the UN.
Pants-of-dog wrote:No, this is so that you do not have to repeat yourself.
Though, you can repeat yourself if you choose not to show where you supposedly did this.
Why don't you do the job of searching for the response yourself?
Pants-of-dog wrote:Maybe NASA is wrong.
Funny how you cannot prove this simple fact.
Can we do this with global warming too?
Pants-of-dog wrote:Only the ones with bound hands.
The rest were killed by the IDF through less direct means.
I'm still waiting for you to prove their hands were bound.
Pants-of-dog wrote:Do you mean “bound”?
If you do, then the people bound by wristbands were the ones that were almost certainly executed by the IDF.
I've yet to see anyone using wristbands to bind hands.
skinster wrote:I was saying that the AI baby the @Israel twitter page put up was bullshit and many called it out and you posting two links of two images doesn't prove anything except that you're incredibly weak in your "arguments", as is typical of Zionists because reality and truth is krytonite to your ilk.
Those photos were also made public by Israel.
And you don't need to tag Israel on PoFo, Twitter has rotten your mind est too much.
skinster wrote:I've pointed this out to you but because people on my side aren't compulsive liars, we can easily remember what the debate was. I pointed out your repeated use of sources such as the Israeli government or its mouthpieces like the Time of Israel being unreliable, about how the latter was a settler. You responded "there is no evidence of this" and I showed you otherwise. And then this is how you responded but that wasn't my argument. My argument was that you try to smear independent media while having sources like The Times of Israel or worse, the Israeli government, yet can present no evidence for it. And then when I ask for it repeatedly, you still don't provide it. You respond like this:
The Times of Israel is not owned by the Israeli government. It's not even pro-Netanyahu.
You're just making shit up.
skinster wrote:Your "example" is a report of Aaron Mate, an award winning journalist on the topic of the OPCW lies on chemical weapons use in Syria is not what you originally claimed. For one, you claimed Grayzone editors are funded by the Kremlin, which you have presented no evidence for. And second, Aaron is not an editor at Grayzone, he is a contributer as your source says and he is speaking on a topic that he has done great investigative journalism on that won him journalist awards, so thanks for that reminder, but ultimately you get 0 for your original claim and have proven once more that you're a smear-merchant and liar when it comes to justice-minded Jews who work for independent media..
...And on the Russian payroll
skinster wrote:How in the hell was this a response to Zionist hasbara/propandists lying constantly. Why even include the tweet? Also, there is no evidence of rape on October 7 so can you please take a different instruction from your Zionist masters who keep instructing you to go on about rape and cheapen it in that gross way that you repeatedly do. Zionists are liars when it comes to rape claims and that has been clear by the lack of evidence, the constant stories debunked and the straight up hoaxes. Here's more on that front in the most recent iteration of Zionists crying rape. I recommend you watch it so you know how we know what full of shit you are:
Still showing your lies and double standards I see. I mean, you didn't even address my argument at all.
skinster wrote:The Patten report got demolished already, in this thread, by someone who studied it very carefully:
Finkelstein didn't demolish anything. This is becoming desperate and hilarious
skinster wrote:Zionists really have some chutzpah with comments like these 7 months into a live streamed genocide.
Stop your bullshit legal analysis.
skinster wrote:No evidence for that, even according to your most recent hoax on the subject (the hostage that made the claim but who didn't say it happened on Oct 7)
...A rape that was a direct result of the kidnapping on October 7.
skinster wrote:They told an obvious agitator to stop agitating and used poor language to do so. One such case by a real life hasbara troll doesn't make London an unsafe place for Jews. When you play victim like this, you cheapen your own arguments since they're so absurd. But keep going so others can see what phonies your ilk are.
"Obvious agitator" = British Jew wanting to exercise his rights.
skinster wrote:Hamas managed to stand its ground on its own territory despite being a guerilla org with no real army fighting the greatest power in the world through its Zionist colony...and pushing Zionist terrorists outside of their own territory after killing many that entered, including elites in the Golani brigades . But if that's how you read "got its ass kicked", that's funny. Still, this is besides the point. The claim that it is the Palestinian resistance that are intransigent in negotiations in incorrect, it is, as usual, the Zionists.
And Hamas is trying hard to get Israel to leave as part of a ceasefire because it can't last indefinitely.
skinster wrote:Nonsense. You are entirely clueless as to what Hamas say despite them making their statements public. Try reading them and cease talking complete nonsense. They are so into forcing others to submit that they have offered Fatah a front role in ruling a Palestinian government while they take a back role.
Fatah actually blames Hamas for this fiasco.
skinster wrote:Making complete shite up is not an argument, but it is typical of you. And as for Palestinian Christians attacked, it is Zionists that do that, they don't discriminate against the Palestinians they attack and kill. My last post had me show footage of Zionist cops attacking Christian Greek orthodox celebrating some Easter holiday over the last few days. Palestinian Muslims and Christians and Jews have got on for millenia. The problem is supremacist Zionists who think they above all three within the former groups I mentioned.
But, this is a good reminder to share this clip where Tucker Carlson, of all people, speaks to a Palestinian Christian pastor and reports on Zionism's attacks on Christians in the holy land as well as others. Christians reading should watch it too.
It's not made up, actually.
Question at the EU Parliament, 2011 wrote:2 % of the population of the Gaza Strip consists of Palestinian Christians. Since the consolidation of power by Hamas, there has been repeated violence against this community. Between 2007 and 2011, there have been acts of vandalism and bomb attacks on Christian schools, homes and institutions, as well as cases of murder and, recently, attempted murder against members of the Christian community. The failure to carry out investigations or arrests following these incidents suggests that Hamas has no intention of intervening to stop this persecution of Christians. In addition, it was confirmed by a Canadian NGO towards the end of 2009 that members of Hamas have repeatedly desecrated Christian graves and exhumed the bodies, in order to ‘decontaminate’ the soil from the corpses of Christians who they believe to be unworthy of burial on Palestinian land. According to the same source, Hamas has forced members of the Christian minority to collaborate with it, intimidating them with threats of rape and reprisals against their families. Discrimination now seems to have become the rule in the West Bank as well, especially in Bethlehem, where the Muslim majority, while accepting Christian tourists, is becoming ever more hostile to Palestinian Christians.
Answer at the EU Parliament, 2011 wrote:Any discrimination or violence against an individual because of his/her religious belief runs against the values that the EU upholds. In February 2011, the EU Foreign Ministers adopted conclusions recalling the primary duty of States to protect their citizens. These conclusions also expressed profound concern about the increasing number of acts of religious intolerance and discrimination, as epitomised by recent violence and acts of terrorism, in various countries, against Christians and their places of worship, Muslim pilgrims and other religious communities. Following these conclusions reconfirming the EU’s strong commitment to the promotion and protection of freedom of religion or belief without any discrimination, the EU has further strengthened its action in this regard.
The Office of the EU Representative for the West Bank and the Gaza Strip follows closely the state of respect for human rights, including freedom of religion or belief, in the occupied Palestinian territory mainly through contacts and consultations with Human Rights NGOs, which operate both in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. Whenever there is an allegation of violence or harassment against Christians, the details of the case are investigated. The latest information the EU has received on this matter indicates that the situation towards Christians in the Gaza Strip remains a cause of concern. As for the West Bank, there have recently not been any reported cases of violence against Christians.
The assessment of the EU is that there is no institutionalised or generalised discrimination against Christians by the Palestinian Authority (PA). Possible events of violence or harassment would result from individuals, not from the PA institutions.
However, the EU remains conscious of the vulnerability of the Palestinian Christians and the issue of respect for freedom of religion or belief in the West Bank. This issue is regularly discussed with the PA representatives, most recently at the EU‑PA Human Rights sub-committee in March 2011. It is to be noted that since the PA does not exercise effective control over the Gaza Strip, the human rights situation there is not addressed in the regular Human Rights dialogue between the EU and the PA.
IIRC the situation has improved somewhat since then. But Christians are certainly not in equal footing with Muslims.
skinster wrote:No, as I said: The problem is not Hamas. Any groups leading Palestinians would be demonized. The problem is the Zionist settlers denying basic human rights to over 7 million Palestinians they occupy for the simple reason that they are not Jews. Don't get it twisted.
Any groups using terrorism would indeed be demonized. Hamas is the most important one now.
skinster wrote:Not sure how this is a response to what I said about how it is not just Hamas in the Palestinian resistance but many other groups including socialists, and that you can never kill the resistance. But since you mentioned ISIS, everyone in the antizionist world knows ISIS is a product of the West and useful to Western interests, such as their imperialist war in Syria. ISIS has never attacked Israel and that should tell anyone paying attention all they really need to know. Actually, my bad, ISIS did once attack Israel but then apologised for accidentally attacking their own.
Those socialists have little power nowadays, but sure, they can meet Hamas' fate too.