[Clann]

http://www.dhoun.utvinternet.ie/Timeline/Crossbarry.htm

[Thunderhawk]

Seeing as Northern Ireland is still part of the UK, Id say its only a partial victory.

[The Immortal Goon]

But as Cork isn't still part of the UK, I would say it was a total victory for that operation.

-TIG

[motojackal]

Thanks Clan, I did not know much about this battle. I am visiting Cork this year, I have printed off the map, I will visit the site.

[Clann]

Moto, there is also a memorial at the site of the Kilmichael ambush. If you want to read more about the legendary Third (west) Cork brigade check out Meda Ryan's excellent Tom Barry - I.R.A. Freedom Fighter or Tom Barry's own book, Guerilla Days in Ireland.

[The Immortal Goon]

If you want to see Tom Barry's old house, go to the McDonald's on St. Patrick's Street.

There's a little plaque outside. It's rather pathetic that someone who was so important for Cork had his house turned in to the Golden Arches instead of something remotely useful.

-TIG

[Clann]

That's an absolute fucking disgrace. Tom Barry is up there with Pearse and Connolly, Tone and Emmet in his contribution to the cause of Irish freedom, an absolute hero.

[The Immortal Goon]

I totally agree. Barry really doesn't get the praise he deserves, actually. the McDonald's being in his old place is just a nail in the coffin. Kind of a symbol of how the Irish Revolution eventually lost its momentum by selling ideal after ideal in the final analysis.

-TIG

[redstarline]

Nice to see people learning Irish history, I met a very confused American who didnt understand that the IRA fought AGAINST the Irish Free State.

[Boondock Saint]

Nice to see people learning Irish history, I met a very confused American who didnt understand that the IRA fought AGAINST the Irish Free State.

THos fucking Americans, I don't know why they even cared about what was going on in Ireland anyway!

Fucking Americans ...

As for the OP, good stuff.

I'd like to visit Ireland someday, maybe I can finally get some sort of grasp as to what my Grandmother was always babbling about and why my family was so damned involved with 'charity' to Ireland.

[The Immortal Goon]

Look me up if you make it to Cork...Well, if you start drinking again and make it to Cork. The two kind of go together though.

-TIG

[vage]

[Comrade Ogilvy]

Congratulations! And happy anniversary.

[Clann]

If you are both in Cork, drop me a line and i'd be glad to buy you a pint in Fred's!

[The Immortal Goon]

If you are both in Cork, drop me a line and i'd be glad to buy you a pint in Fred's!

I'm in Cork. I live off of Shandon street.

Fred's is sweet.

-TIG

[dannymu]

The IRA is/was an organisation full of murderers. Why should we celebrate their "achievements"

[Spin]

Because things aren't as black and white as that.

Furthermore, this was a different IRA.

[Clann]

The IRA is/was an organisation full of murderers. Why should we celebrate their "achievements"

Why should we celebrate anything?

[jaakko]

The IRA is/was an organisation full of murderers. Why should we celebrate their "achievements"

What a question! That's like neo-nazis going to a Day of Victory celebration on the 9th of May, asking "why should we celebrate this".

[Eauz]

It's too bad I don't have much grasp on Irish history... Although, I did enjoy Michael Collins the film.